Well,

already before I was young and attractive, as a schoolboy in Sweden in the 
fifties, we went out in the woods riding trails on standard bikes with 584/42mm 
and 584/38mm tires. But we didn´t give it a name. Just riding. When normal 
people got the money to acquire bicycles around 1920 they did the same, for 
transportation. On 584/42 and 584/38mm tires! They didn´t call it anything 
special. Just riding. Some decades ago I even found a broken down bike from the 
1890´s with solid tires beside a trail. He must have been out there, just 
riding.

 

Olof Stroh

Uppsala Sweden 

who this morning rode along the river on Old C (Centurion Super Tour from 1982) 
with Grand Bois Cypres tires.

 

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Moore
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:11 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch
Subject: Re: [RBW] Klunking!

 

Back when I was young and attractive, circa 1990, I briefly dated an even 
younger and more attractive woman near Santa Fe who had an early mountain bike 
-- 6 speed, I recall. I was too poor to own one, having just spend all my 
disposable income on a '89 Falcon (nice bike!), so I bought a Schwinn 3 speed 
at Goodwill for $15 and had a lbs install a 36 t ring, giving 70", 52", and 39" 
gears, and myself installed scavenged straight bars. It had 26 X 1 3.8 tires 
**that never flatted**. I recall riding a hilly jeep trail just south of SF, 
with multiple stream crossings where you could see the water run into and out 
of bb and rear hub. Didn't affect the performance at all.

 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:11 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

All of the California guys acknowledge that what they were doing wasn't 
anything new.  The activity just reached a critical mass in Marin and the 
modern sport of mountain biking has a direct lineage to what they were doing in 
the 1970's.  One of their friends, John Finley Scott, had built a fully 
functioning MTB using a Schwinn road bike frame and fat tires 20 years before 
the Marin guys started their experiments.  He called it a "Woodsy Bike". 

 

For me, an old-fashioned, rigid, heavy duty bike with 26" wheels (or now, maybe 
650B) with fat tires and MTB handlebars is the very essence of a bicycle.  I do 
prefer Norba geometry over Repack geometry, although my one bike with Repack 
geometry is a blast to ride!



On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:58:43 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:

>From an interview of Matt Marcus (early eastern MTBer) by Blue Ridge Outdoors 
>on some predecessors to what we know as klunkers:

 

MM: Back when I owned the bike shop in the 90s, I came across this story on 
this sheet of paper about how back in the 1920s during Prohibition moonshiners 
made these bicycles with gearing that they used to run the moonshine over the 
mountains from Dryfork, W.V., in Randolph County. That’s the story and if I 
ever find it again I’ll send it to you. I don’t even know where it came from.
But it wasn’t one group. Hundreds of people all over the world discovered 
mountain biking. It was just the guys out in California that finally took it to 
production. They’re the ones who pulled it off. It seems like there are more 
bike shops in California and Florida than anywhere else in the U.S. and its 
because of the climate and terrain.

 

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 5:25:08 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

That is an interesting video, and interesting hair. I wish they'd show a 
smoking coaster hub, though.

 

Notice too the no retention pedals and "ride in what you're wearing" clothing.

 

I was interested to hear whatzizname say that the sport had really started 10 
or so years earlier; what, mid to late '60s? Nil novum, etc.

 

Can anyone identify the year or at least specify the period? Late '70s?

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Liesl <li...@smm.org> wrote:

Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
2) dig hair!
3) dig the pre-boscos
4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??????

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