I'm guessing these will be made in Taiwan-- but just a guess. Tubing specs-- S!lver... w/o any specifics. Good, fine, and appropriate for the task. If Grant says the swoopy chainstays aren't less rigid, I'll go with that. (Assuming rider weight is within the specs for the bike.)
TIG welding is a lot less expensive than lugs. Clem isn't lugless, but there's a lot of savings in time and expertise. Paint is another biggie-- doing cream head tube with other paint means masking, and separate sprays, dries, etc. It adds a lot of time and labor = $$. As for less expensive parts-- I think that's baked into Riv. The Sugino crank is $146, and goes on many Rivs-- I've got one on my AHH. Tough to beat the Shimano square taper BB, which go for under $30. Great values.... I really like some expensive cranks, too, but are they "worth" double the price? Only you can say. Also, sometimes (often?) the difference in price for parts is for weight consideration, e.g., derailers. Little value in spending more to save a few grams on a Clem-type bike. Looking forward to hearing more about it, and hoping a lot of people buy it. Shoji On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 12:43:53 PM UTC-5, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > i've been following the progression of the clem, but have no insider > information. so, i think, from what i've read it is meant to be an all > arounder with some trail (fat tire clearance) and touring (thicker tubing, > braze-ons) capabilities. i would venture to say that it isnt meant to be a > traditional go fast road bike. i got one for my girlfriend who will use it > as an attractive townie that we can put racks and stuff on as i slowly try > to ease her into some overnight trips. > to add to the discussion > > -anyone know who is making these? > -what the actual tubing specs are? > -what the actual chainstay length is, other than "long" > -am i an idiot for not understanding the frame lock clue? > -i know im not supposed to harp on it, but does the swoopy seat stay mean > less rigidity? > -other than the tig welds and paint, what brings the cost down so much on > the f+f? > -is anyone else sorta turned off by the recommendations to take off good > parts and add crummier ones? i mean, if you do that, more power to you, and > if it's on the standard build, also understandable from a price point. but > it seems kind of like they dont think this bike is worthy of metal pedals > or cork grips or whatever....even if you want to put them on yourself. its > an odd play for a bike that could be a great entry level riv for people who > like the brand and wanted one, but couldnt justify the price. > > again, im already in and excited, so i dont need convincing. just curious > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
