nice paint might be a factor i remember a world class racing car driver who said a good coat of turtlewax was good for 2mph at the top end 165 to 167 mph. I remain confident that the nice thick paint on my Ram is a contributing factor to my weekend 45 mile ride times remaining somewhat consistent and even improving a bit over a five year period.
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 8:39:17 AM UTC-8, Kyle Brooks wrote: > > Thanks for the kind words, Patrick. Blogging part time - roughly 3 times > per week - seems to be about all I can manage currently. About the > different "feel" of those different bikes -- seems to support that there is > more to the picture than just weight -- and it's hard to pin down what it > is. Jan Heine has written a bit about the feel of different tires, as well > as "planing" and how a bit of frame flex can make a bike feel fast. But > even those things might not totally explain it. Just gives us more to think > about. > > Kyle Brooks > Akron, OH > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Kyle: I read your blog regularly; please start publishing twice a day. >> >> Regarding bike weight: my own experience with a motley array of different >> bikes of different builds and qualities has been that weight is relatively >> unimportant when it comes to feeling (note that word) "spritely" or >> "lively" -- a notion that involves ease of pedaling and cadence in a given >> gear, so it's not purely mental smoke. I had an old Herse that was a tank >> as to weight (guesstimate 28 lb) but that from the first pedal stroke felt >> "fast". My erstwhile Sam Hillborne, no heavier, "felt" much slower; and >> even the very light framed, *tout 531* '73 Motobecane didn't feel as >> spritely; very same tires, IRC Tandems, 30 mm. My current Ram, also not >> light at ~26 lb, feels fast, though this one has Parigi Roubaix tires on >> it. >> >> I wish I had an explanation for this phenomenon. I hesitantly guess that >> fit and geometry affect this perception. >> >> One exception to the "weight no matter" rule: my Riv fixie gofast, at 17 >> 1/2 lb and with 370 gram rims and 200 gram tires "seems" easier (measured >> by gearing -- slightly higher than other cruising gears at 75" -- and >> cadence) to push up hills; in fact, every time I decide I don't need a >> gofast and what I'll do is convert it to rack, lighting, 35+ mm tires, I >> ride up some hills and decide, "Damn! This is too good to relinquish!" >> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Kyle Brooks <bicyc...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> I read that article on VeloNews -- really just an excerpt from the book, >>> "Faster" which is one I think I'd like to read. In any case, I wrote >>> something about this idea on The Retrogrouch Blog last year. Not >>> scientific, but just a comparison between two of my own bikes and my >>> commute to work. The two bikes are pretty similar, but one is loaded up >>> with bags, racks, fenders, lights, etc. all of which probably adds 15 lbs >>> or so. I normally use the loaded one for my work commute, and it normally >>> takes me about 50 minutes to ride the 13 miles to work. I achieved my best >>> time, however, on the lighter bike -- 45 minutes for the same commute. >>> However, that day, I had also managed to hit nothing but green lights the >>> whole way to work. When I managed the same feat, all green lights, with the >>> loaded bike, I came awfully close - 46 minutes. Again - it's more anecdotal >>> than scientific, but in the end, I concluded that there are probably a lot >>> of other things that make more difference than weight, and that being the >>> case, it hardly makes sense to obsess about grams. If fenders, or >>> racks/bags can improve our comfort and convenience, then they're worth >>> whatever weight they add. It seems to me that a lighter bike "feels" >>> faster, but the difference is more perception than reality. >>> >>> if interested, here's the link to the full article: >>> http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-tale-of-two-bikes.html >>> >>> Kyle Brooks >>> Akron, OH >>> >>> On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:41:33 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: >>>> >>>> GPP has said as much on the Blug before, but it's nice to see it in the >>>> Zeitgiest as well. If a 160 lb rider on a 22lb bike wants a 10% >>>> improvement >>>> is climbing speed, you need to drop 18 lbs! Going from a Bombadil to a >>>> Pinarello Dogma won't get you there. (I don't think. It might be close). >>>> Going on a diet and riding a lot of hills will though. >>>> >>>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/bike-weight- >>>> myth-fast-bikes_339880 >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >>> <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >> >> ************************************* >> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a >> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and >> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu >> >> *Kinei hos eromenon. 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