Sadly, I am entirely too familiar with the issue of back pain. In 2013, I 
ruptured my L5-S1 disc badly enough to require surgery to prevent permanent 
disability. The MRI I had prior to surgery identified non-trivial problems 
all along my spine; annular tears in two discs, bulged disks in two more. 
Good times. What this all means for riding is that, so far, I have been 
unable to ride pain free. I have 3 bikes now, a 54 Hunqapillar with Boscos, 
a 56 Atlantis with Noodles, and Brompton... an embarrassment of riches, as 
they say. I had a bike fit by my physical therapist with the Hunqapillar, 
and was surprised to learned that I had the fit pretty dialed. She 
recommended a little more back angle, since the Boscos have my spine almost 
vertical. My Atlantis with the drops puts me forward a lot more. As things 
are right now, I can ride the Hunqapillar for a long time (hours) before 
the ache sets in. On the Atlantis, I get about 90 minutes, tops. I really 
like having drops on the Atlantis, so, I'm going to experiment with moving 
the bars up, and maybe a shorter stem, to reduce my back angle. On the 
Hunqapillar, I'm going back to albatross bars because when I last had them 
on I was able to ride a 100+ mile day on a short tour just 3 months 
post-op. Sure, I hurt like hell, but I figured I was going to hurt like 
hell after a 100 miles regardless. It sucks to have a bad back, but with 
enough Vitamin I and some finesse dialing in the fit, I can still ride as 
much as I want to. I hope I can still say that when I take on the Northern 
Tier in 2016...

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-8, K Griffin wrote:
>
> Your experience and the explanation sounds reasonable.  In this case, the 
> former is probably more important, as each of us is slightly different. 
>  Even if there were a strong anatomic reason why more vertical than 45 deg 
> would be "best" your body may not have read the same textbook from which 
> the experts have learned.  I'm fortunate not to have the disc issue, but 
> when I have lower back spasms (typically with my prior job), the two things 
> that would really make it feel better would be riding my bike or swimming. 
> My position would be with raised bars compared to most road bikes, but 
> still over far enough to put a nice, natural lean without having to crank 
> my neck to see past my wheel.  
>
> Kurt Griffin
> Sioux Falls, SD
>
>
> alan lavine <[email protected] <javascript:>>: Feb 15 11:56AM -0800 
>
> Hello All...Thought I would share this, as I'm sure I'm not the only 
> "mature" cyclist with intermittent low back pain. I have a small disc 
> herniation at L4-L5 level that protrudes posteriorly and compresses the 
> nerve root as it exits the vertebral column. My first response was, well 
> Grant was right, now I have to be more upright on the bike. Not a problem 
> for a chronic cockpit changer like me, anyway...is there a bar I haven't 
> tried? Doubt it.
>  
> So I put Albatross bars on the Ram, also tried porter bars on another bike,
>  
> experimenting with various bar heights as well. THIS MADE THINGS WORSE! I 
> went to moustache and albastache bars, with a shorter stem, bars level with
>  
> the seat, and did much better. The neurologist explained it: with your 
> back bent forward at a gentle angle, 45 degree angle of trunk to 
> horizontal, the vertebral column is bent in a way that opens up the 
> posterior (back) aspect of the column and helps to relieve the compression
>  
> of the nerve root. An upright posture is more like a series of blocks one 
> on top of another and all the force is directed straight down, compressing
>  
> things further.
>  
> I realize this scenario is specific to my particular anatomy but I'm 
> curious to hear about others' experiences with this issue. How has your 
> riding changed as Father Time marches on?
>  
> Alan
>
>
>

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