Hi, All,

The relevant reflective/conspicuity vest standard for cycling is EN 1150, 
not EN 1173. I apparently have a random-number generator for a memory.

Best,

Will

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 10:59:14 AM UTC-7, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Matthew,
>
> I have noticed joggers have taken up the neon vest in some numbers 
> locally, and a few of the local commuters have as well. 
>
> I look forward to the day when, in addition to "s/he was/wasn't wearing a 
> helmet," we'll get to read "s/he was/wasn't wearing reflective anklebands 
> and a safety vest conforming to ANSI standards" in our local newspaper's 
> online edition.
>
> The EU countries have road regulations requiring reflective gear be used 
> by cyclists after dark outside of urban areas (conforming to EN1173 or 
> higher), which have been in place since (around) 2010. The military 
> requires motorcyclists (another group with serious SMIDSY problems on the 
> road) to wear ANSI vests, and has for thirty years now.
>
> I've not seen any data indicating that these requirements have changed 
> crash rates. Has anyone seen a study?
>
> We don't tend to wear safety gear for activities that we consider normal, 
> ordinary and not "dangerous", regardless of the actual risks involved. 
> "Danger" (perceived risk of an event) doesn't necessarily map well to risk 
> (probability of an event).
>
> Consequently, we get obese and tolerate distracted driving but we aren't 
> embarrassed to hassle cyclists who aren't equipped with our personal 
> standard for safety gear; this latter behavior extends well beyond the 
> cycling community. 
>
> Disclosure: I've been hit by a distracted teen driver in my non-chartreuse 
> automobile while waiting at a stoplight. I was not wearing a reflective 
> vest nor was I wearing a crash helmet at the time. 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand why more cyclists don't use safety vests - either 
>> cheap ones like the Ikea or more pricey purpose made Nathans and the like.  
>>
>> My Nathan has a loud neon green base that stands out in the day time and 
>> reflective stripes that really catch the light in the evening.  The 
>> material is light and packable enough there is no problem stuffing it into 
>> my bag or even a pocket when I reach my destination.  
>>
>> Safety vests afford cyclists the luxury or wearing whatever color they 
>> prefer while still being conspicuous on the bike,
>>
>

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