For that price I'd live with it.  Before I'd spend money on the Phil I'd 
drop an extra $50 and start over with a White Industries hub, save a bunch 
of weight, and have a hub that doesn't have excessive drag while coasting.  

I have a Phil cassette hub that is many years old and well broken-in.  If I 
give the rear wheel a spin with the bike in the repair stand, the drag in 
the hub drives the cranks around rather than letting the cassette 
freewheel.  Coasting on the road at speed it tries to drive the chain 
forward, causing the chain to go slack on the top run.  This has not 
changed since the hub was new.  The mechanic at the local shop has seen 
this before and regards it as a flaw in Phil's design.  The WI I have on 
another bike does not do this, nor do any other hubs I have owned.  

Bill

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:49:35 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>
> Evening, group.  Anyone here (1) run a Phil cassette hub on their Riv, and 
> (2) come to find the cassette does not release or install onto the hub body 
> without significant force/wrangling/finagling involved?  It's really 
> bizarre. I have a Phil cassette hub on my Hilsen and I have this issue. 
>  Called Phil today.  I'm told that I have an older generation cassette hub 
> that has 4 pawls instead of the new 5 pawl hub body.  So, Phil wants $266 
> from me (plus shipping both ways) to install the current gen cassette hub 
> and ratchet ring.  No warranty on Phil parts, apparently.  Riv installed 
> the cassette hub on my Hilsen in 2010, and I'd very much assume the guys 
> who built my Hilsen up would've noticed a fussy fit between the cassette 
> and the hub body.  But how did this happen?
>
> Does this scenario speak to anyone here?  If so, do you know of another 
> workaround, as an alternative to dealing with Phil. 
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> David
> Sacramento, CA
>

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