I can't recall the post Patrick, but you asked about this once before when 
you were looking for bags.  I have a Pika and I posted this photo of it.   
Yes, the capacity is large fully expanded outward (behind , not down) , but 
at it's smallest it's still got good capacity but is very very stable , no 
swaying at all . 

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/44fwwuUGIeHf_ekplhDlN3Cp3kpjgA87sF6gwBMK7cM?feat=directlink



On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:35:19 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> In the ongoing search for the ideal seat bag, I came across the Pika which 
> looks as if it might have the best of both (small and big) worlds; and it 
> comes in red. Does anyone own a Pika? If so, can she or he give me the 
> dimensions both expanded to the maximum and cinched as small as possible?
>
> If anyone has one to sell, I might be interested, particularly if it is 
> red. My Jandd Mountain Wedge III is too hugely huge for my purpose and I 
> *might* be persuaded to add that to the "bid" side of the trade -- I 
> realize that the Revelate is 2X the cost of the Jandd.
>
> 'Nother question: The Minihaha small saddlebag is 9.5" X 6" X 6". Can one 
> get a large Riv waterbottle (a wee bit over 10" at the top of the spout) 
> into one of these without forcing things?
>
> I expect that the Revelate design is better for my needs, but just in case 
> ...
>
> Thanks.
>
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