On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/22/2014 12:18 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > The cog progression on the 11-40 is actually not bad, though of course > it assumes a very small (~32 tooth) ring and though the gearing is > clearly meant for singletrack. But the same principle applies to other > terrain and other types of riding. I myself like the single ring setup > for all my riding, saving my inner for exceptional hills > > > If you have an inner ring you are "saving" you do not have a single ring > setup.
Read it again. > > and choosing > my rear cogs for sufficient range for most of my riding with close > ratio cruising gears in the middle; both my road bike -- Ram and off > road (= sandy flats, mostly) bike -- Fargo are set up like this. > > > standard best practice for choosing gearing > > > But gearing is always a compromise, even with 11 in the back, and even > with a 3X11: for this last you give up friction shifting (I imagine) > and mixing and matching components, not to mention low price and chain > line, in case this matters to you. Perhaps the Rohloff is the least > compromised system for off road and touring, all taken together, > though even that compromises with cost and weight. > > > From what I've read, the roadies using 11 speed like it and say it shifts > even better than 9 or 10. There's no difference in chain line 11 vs 9 or > 10. The compromise, if there is such, comes in when you consider cost, > longevity and sensitivity to misadjustment. Although I have no personal > experience with anything > 9, from what I read there's no huge fall-off in > longevity for 11 compared to 10. Bottom line: forgetting friction shifting > (which in my opinion stops at 7) you're talking about state of the art > derailleur drive trains here. Read it again. > > Now as for Rohloff: again, no personal experience, but from what I've read > in the way of test articles, you have all the bad features of IGH -- weight, > cost, gears in the middle of the range that provide no meaningful change due > to internal friction losses. I might accept "Best of a bad lot" as a > description, but certainly not "least compromised". > Jan's review of the Rohloff is not the only review of the Rohloff. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ************************************* "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place. "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be? "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
