My experience with randonneuring is limited to riding the Pt. Reyes
Populaire last weekend.  And my experience with putting high front
loads on a bike is limited to my 52 cm Sam.  So I can't give much
direct insight into brevet-riding details or compare to other bikes
but I do have a lot of experience riding the Hillborne front-loaded.

I have a Nitto mini front rack and a medium wald basket zip-tied to
the rack.  Almost every time I'm on the bike something's in that
basket.  Regularly I ride with loads up to perhaps 10 lbs in there.
And when grocery-shopping I suspect closer to 20 lbs is sometimes in
there.  Though I'm always lightly climbing away from the grocery store
when loaded (as opposed to high-speed descending-- this comment will
make sense later).

In my experience once you adapt to the feel of the loaded bike (which
happens quickly) it's like nothing's there.

In my several months with the bike I've only observed one instance of
a slight handling issue for which I don't actually blame the bike.  I
don't blame the bike as the loading was done haphazardly, quickly and
strangely AND my headset needed tightening at the time.  I had
probably about 10 lbs in the basket and probably more like 25-30 lbs
lashed haphazardly (almost certainly off-balance) and high to the rear
rack.  When descending at high speed one-handed while wiping wind-
tears out of my eyes there was some front-end shudder/oscillation.
Riding with two soft hands rather than one grippy hand dampened the
shudder out.  No need to slow down or anything extreme like that
thanks to the soft hands.  No need to use the thigh-on-top-tube
trick.

 -Mike

On Oct 4, 7:34 pm, ToddBS <[email protected]> wrote:
> From photos and geometry charts, it looks like the Sam Hillborne has a
> good bit of fork rake.  I was curious if anyone had experience using
> the Sam for front-loaded light touring, specifically in a
> randonneuring capacity, but anyone riding it with a rando style
> handlebar bag.
>
> I know the Sam is supposed to be the replacement for the Bleriot,
> which a lot of folks used for that type of activity.
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