Interesting, does NY still have single use plastic bags?  California 
totally banned plastic bags.  

On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:49:41 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Yeah in NY they aren't available as an option even. Just local stores 
> still have them, no big grocery store. 
> On Sep 15, 2014 5:48 PM, "Bill Lindsay" <tape...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> In California there are still paper grocery bags, you just pay 10 cents 
>> for them.  If I forget my reusable bags, I pay 10 cents a bag and recycle 
>> the paper when the bag is no longer useful.  Is it different where you 
>> live?  
>>
>> One thing in the article that is kind of cool is the free angle.  A 
>> sponsor provides them to stores for free, and they are free to people who 
>> want to use them, and they just print advertising stuff on them.  That's a 
>> win-win, provided somebody wants to pay for creative advertising.  I doubt 
>> anybody is going to get filthy rich on the idea, but maybe it's one more 
>> way to make it even more cool to use one's bike in the eyes of the general 
>> public.  Baby steps
>>
>> On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:24:38 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>>
>>> I think its a great idea but grocery stores left paper bags behind a 
>>> while ago. IMO it would be a hard sell to ask them to stock these for the 
>>> once in a while occurrence where someone on a bike forgets their panniers. 
>>> its a subset of a subset market, very small. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm with Bill in that it's a brilliant option compared to none.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 15, 2014 4:07:19 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, September 13, 2014 5:56:57 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First we were killing the planet with paper bags, then because we 
>>>>>> used plastic, but now it's good to buy cardboard panniers if we're 
>>>>>> biking 
>>>>>> to the grocer without our real panniers? I don't get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deacon
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get what you don't get.  If somebody needs to carry some stuff 
>>>>> on their bike, and the store has a commodious solution that is cheap, 
>>>>> effective and made from and of recyclable materials, there's not a whole 
>>>>> lot to not get.  It's not the best solution to carrying stuff on your 
>>>>> bike, 
>>>>> but it's the nicest sub $5 solution I've seen lately.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
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