+ 1 for no padding. I find that if my shorts, inner, and shorts, street,
outer, are cut full enough -- deep in crotch and high in waist, full in
thigh -- and ditto for the underlying boxers, I don't even think about
padding (for up to 30 miles, anyway). Of course, slightly too tight and
high within or without makes a big negative difference. Original Flites on
all bikes, properly set up; 2/4 bikes fixed.

I personally hate the feel of lycra shorts and thick pads and haven't used
padding for years, but back when I did I would often wear them under street
shorts; this would obviate the concerns you raise in your questions.

Patrick "have 2 pair Kucharik wool shorts, with real chamois, *just in case
-- *sort of a fleet in being as opposed to fleet in action kind of thing*"*
 Moore


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Bruce Herbitter <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Since going to Selle Anatomica saddles, I have generally not needed any
> padding. When I was using it, padded briefs by Zoic were excellent. I came
> by a couple which were inside baggy shorts, but removable, so they can be
> used under anything desired.I see that they now sell JUST the pad.
> http://www.zoic.com/mensmtbshorts#
>
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