Peter, it's always decided by actuaries (insurance) and pockets (potential 
defendants).  But if I was Trek, I would be worried, because they have 
pockets.  

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:17:21 AM UTC-5, George Millwood wrote:
>
> See the horror stories on carbon fibre at:- 
>
> http://www.bustedcarbon.com/
>
> These go back to 2011 as the guy running the blog ran out of enthusiasm 
> for the subject.  Still it is sobering to see that racing bikes break, 
> production bikes break, 29ers break, they all break and it is disastrous as 
> the break in sudden and has caused serious injury.
>
> I was watching the Tour Down Under on TV a few years back when a racer did 
> a face pant at speed following a frame/fork failure. It made a real mess of 
> him and discouraged me from ever riding carbon fibre.  I know I will 
> attract a storm of people whio have ridden cf for years without a problem 
> and other stating that those were the early days and all is rosy now but I 
> since I cycle to lose weight from this 1947 model homo sapiens I can't be 
> bothered.
>
> I run a Company that has payment kiosks fabricated and talking with the 
> materials guy at the manufacturing plant, some things emerged.  In his 
> opinion and from his research, carbon fibre is liable to fail following a 
> nick of crack which can escape observation.  Carbon fibre tubs in motorcars 
> are protected from such damage by the bodywork.  This problem has led to 
> carbon fibre being manufactured with titanium mesh as the last lay up. 
>  Either that or it looks really cool and they can charge a lot more money 
> for it.
>
> George Millwood
> Wollongong Australia where it is late Autumn which means that it only hit 
> 22C on an overcast day., 
>
>
>
>>  

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