I think DP is referring to off-road use with knobbies, where a directional
tread is more appropriate. I would agree that it probably won't slow you
down a whole lot, but that there probably is a benefit to having the the
tread facing the appropriate way for front (steering) and rear (drive).

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I had a set of directional tires on a flip flop fixie for years. God knows
> what direction they were facing one week to the other, never made a bit of
> difference.
> On May 17, 2014 12:17 PM, "Tim McNamara" <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Does directional tread matter more at higher speeds (aka downhill, flat
>> or less uphill) or slow speed traction/climbing?
>>
>> No.  It's marketing BS like lots of other things in bike tire land.
>>
>> Tread is not beneficial for traction with bike tires unless the surface
>> is softer than the tire rubber (mud, soft dirt, grass).  On cement, asphalt
>> or wood there is no additional traction to be gained with siping or tread.
>>  Rolling resistance studies have indicated that blocky or knobby tread
>> increases rolling resistance and reduce cornering traction (because there
>> is less rubber in contact with the road, which is why racing cars on
>> pavement wear slicks unless it's wet).  If your tires buzz, they are
>> slowing you down.
>>
>> Road tires for cars and trucks have tread to reduce hydroplaning due to
>> the squared-off profile resulting in a rectangular contact patch with the
>> road.  The round profile of bike tires is enough to reduce hydroplaning
>> without resorting to siping or tread.  Jet aircraft likewise use treadless
>> round profile tires; motorcycle road tires are mostly effectively treadless
>> with wide spaces between channels.  If you look at bike road tires the
>> "tread" is pretty much nominal, an embossed pattern rather than real tread
>> that wears off the rear tire in 1000 miles or so.  The useful thing it
>> provides is a visual depth gauge for how much rubber is left.
>>
>> Alas for the good old Avocet tires and the Michelin Super Comp HD (which
>> was my favorite tire ever).
>>
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