On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:08:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You do have a problem! I love my later edition blue Ram, also 58 (I'm 2" 
> shorter but mostly shorter in the legs) and, while the Ram doesn't feel as 
> spritely as my 2 remaining customs (tho' the Parigi Roubaix tires help make 
> up for that) it is hardly piggish and it does encourage energetic riding.
>
> I've found that weight doesn't always mean "feels faster". I owned a bike 
> a couple of years ago that the two previous owners sold because (I am 
> extrapolating) it felt sluggish to them -- didn't "plane". The first time I 
> got on it, it felt as if it just "fit" and "wanted to go". It was rather a 
> tank with f and r racks and fenders and lights; heavier than the Ram but 
> not by much. And it had mediocre tires -- IRC Tandems. 
>
> The Ram also "fit" right away and feels as, or almost, as fast, even 
> though I guess the geometry is quite different -- medium versus low trail. 
> It certainly has better tires. 
>
> From these experiences, and from experience with other bikes, I tend to 
> think that a frame's geometry can complement or resist one's body type, 
> preferred setup, and customary riding style, so that some bikes just feel 
> faster because they "fit" better -- regardless of tires, tubing, weight, 
> and paint color. This is a guess, but my experience to support it has been 
> remarkably consistent.
>
> Another thought: I rode that earlier bike (an old Herse) first with 32 mm 
> Pasela Tourguards, and *those* were pigs. Even the scavenged IRC Tandems 
> felt much better. Perhaps you should try better tires?
>
> Or .... "just ride"....??? (Just kidding.)
>

Thanks -- I have thought about using a higher-quality tire before I give 
up, as I've found that makes a pretty big difference in ride quality. I 
built up a set of nice wheels for this bike with some used King hubs, and 
that made a significant improvement, but it's still a pretty un-fun ride. 

I don't think it's a weight issue, as many of my bikes are pretty heavy, 
and don't have the same qualities. 

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