I'll gladly answer any and all questions of this sort but I would prefer to keep those discussions offlist as they tend to venture too far away from RBW topics.
On Jul 15, 10:16 am, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm curious: why do you avoid animal products for these things? I understand > a vegan diet for health or ascetical reasons, but obviously those don't > apply to leather saddles and saddlebag trim. > And what are your alternatives for saddles, beside petrochemicals? > > I'm not trying to be annoying, but I am puzzled. > > I'm also puzzled by what you mean by "de-normalizing bicycle design > and gender" -- I suppose that, by "gender", you mean "sex" (man -- in > this more limited and > non-specific meaning -- is a sex, not a gender, which is a grammatical term, > all question begging about usage aside). So, what exactly do you mean by > "de-normalizing bicycle design and sex"? (I expect you don't mean that one's > testicles are safer without a top tube.) > > Patrick "slinging no mud, at all, at all" Moore > > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:38 AM, JL <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Living a vegan lifestyle and being a cyclist are two things that I > > have done for quite a while now. However, these two aspects of my > > life are just small pieces of who I am as a person in the world. > > Making consumer choices that don't include (oh the horror -hahaha) > > leather and wool often limits my bicycle component choices -especially > > within the Riv world. I make my own when I can. I was really happy to > > see Riv come up with a few leather-free bags. While the bags > > themselves are handy, one can be assured that labor conditions and > > quality are top concerns when buying something from this company. > > Furthermore I see it as an attempt to de-normalize bicycle components, > > much like their stance on the mixtie for men works to de-normalize > > bicycle design and gender. There are tons of non-leather etc products > > in the bike world, but it is difficult to find high quality, ethically > > produced and attractive goods. I have had some rather unpleasant > > experiences with bicycle component/accessory companies when I inquired > > about animal product free options. Thanks Rivendell for taking a > > step. > > > ps: This is not meant as an add for a particular lifestyle, just an > > attempt to give my perspective on an aspect of the Rivendell company. > > It is often difficult to discuss things that venture into a semi- > > political realm I hope we can all avoid mudslinging. > > > Second ps - There are high quality leather-like textiles being > > produced in different parts of the world now. The thing I would put > > on the top of my non-leather wish list is a well made, good looking, > > hammock (brooks etc) style saddle. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > Professional Resumes. Contact [email protected] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
