I've mused about the weight difference for the two systems, taken as a
total, but never bothered to go on-line and get all the weights of the bits
and add them up.  Heft a 12-32 8 speed steel cassette (the affordable kind).
Think about multiple chainrings.  Extra chain.  Freehub.  I wouldn't be
surprised if the total system diff was less than a couple of pounds.  Dunno,
but it'd be a fun experiment.  

dougP

-----Original Message-----
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dpco
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike?


the rohloff system is so heavy, it makes the frt' and r derailleurs
systems look very efficient. if rohloff could bring the weight to
somewhat, modern standards for a road bike, i would buy one in a new
york minute. and by the way, i am not your sterio-typical weight
weeny. i ride a blue ram.
sincerely, don c.

On Apr 26, 7:34 pm, "Doug Peterson" <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> When you look at a Rohloff and compare it to the Rube Goldberg of a
> derailer, it kinda makes you wonder at the "modern" part.  If we weren't
all
> used to looking at the exposed gearing, derailer systems would never be
> taken seriously if introduced today.  
>
> Let's see, an Atlantis frame is $2K, and a Rohloff is....$2K.  Lot more
> little precision pieces whirling about in the latter.  Put the two
together
> and you've got....yikes!  One expensive and quite elegant touring bike.  
>
> dougP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:48 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
>
> I rode a century in the Fall.  In the parking lot at the start I was
> pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over
> and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked
> like when he (the father) was a kid.  My favorite line in this genre,
> however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike,
> a tout terrain I got from Peter White.  It is equipped with a Rohloff
> hub.  Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked
> why I can't afford a "modern" bike.  I just don't have the energy to
> try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro
> being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season.
> GeorgeS
>
> On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments
> about how great it looks and wistful, "I bet it's comfortable on these
rough
> roads too."
>
> > The "leather helmet" was known as a "hair net" in the day, iirc.
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: k5osx <k5o...@gmail.com>
>
> > "It is great to see an ancient bike being
> > ridden in this rally... Is it Italian?"
>
> > Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker
> > shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;)
>
> > robert




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