I agree with Todd. I have been riding 'seriously' since High School in the 70s. I have bikes that handle very differently with very different dimensions. The Quickbeam has a whopping 65mm trail (with RP/RT tires). This high-trail design is out of fashion (& these things do seem rather fadish) in some circles. Yet within 2 blocks of my house, my day's bike handling pretty much disappears underneath me, and I am more concerned about the wind, road hazards, traffic, birds, sun, hills, views, etc. But thats just me....
On Mar 1, 8:54 am, Todd Olsen <todd_ol...@comcast.net> wrote: > What does "how a bike handles" mean? It seems to me that if one > approximates the geometry such that the length from the saddle to the > pedals, head tube angle, the difference between the saddle height and > handlebar height, and the distance from the handlebars to the saddle > are similar, and if the tires are similar size and have similar > pressure, and the trail is similar, frame material the same, weight > similar, etc. then two bicycles, even if made by people in different > parts of the world would feel similar. > > Thank you, > Todd Olsen AHH > > On Feb 28, 9:00 am, Horace <max...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:42 PM, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: > > > > I have to say I've ridden a couple of Surlys over the years, and although > > > I > > > think they are a good value, it's hard to make a case that they have the > > > same ride. > > > One thing I have observed is that some people care little about how a > > bike handles. This used to rub me the wrong way, but I've come to > > accept it. > > > On the surface, Rivendells appear to be all about lugged steel, tire > > clearances, dropout eyelets, and leather saddles. For me, all of that > > is pointless if the bike handles poorly. The vastly overlooked feature > > of Rivendell bikes (to me) is their remarkable handling. I admit, > > though, that it's a matter of personal preference. > > > I think Rivendells handle the way they do by design. This is shown by > > the fact that the smaller frame sizes use smaller wheels, and still > > often have toe overlap. Those are signs that the frame designer is > > thinking about something other than marketing. > > > I've owned over two dozen bikes over the years, most of them lugged > > steel, many of them built in the 80s and 90s. The Rivendells (I have a > > Romulus and a Quickbeam) stand out with their "just right" handling. > > > I'm not saying that no other bikes out there handle like a Rivendell > > (some do, they're rare). And clearly, how a bike handles is not as > > important to everyone as it is for me. But if one DOES care about how > > a bike handles, then one should consider that few other bikes ride > > like a Rivendell. > > > I regret that I don't have better words to describe this. > > > Horace.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
