I agree with the tan aesthetics.  Planning on using the NS Big Box on
a front loader.  I've had a Carradice Camper longflap for some time on
the back of my Rambouillet with a big Nitto rear rack supporting it,
and have used it along with grocery panniers to go to the market.  Of
course I need to watch how much wieght I put in there- a lot of canned
goods makes for an interesting experience in concentrated cycling on
the way home.  But all said, it's great having a really big bag to
throw stuff in.

On Feb 6, 4:36 pm, Lesli <lesli.lar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I prefer the aesthetics of my Nigel Smythe country bag.  The brown
> leather against black canvas and engraved nameplate are all a little
> dear (a little too Dooney and Bourke) for me.  In general, I prefer my
> canvas in khaki or forest green.
>
> I do love my Riv NS country bag.  It's probably the proximate size of
> the new
> medium Sackville model.  Holds quite a bit and always keeps out the
> rain.
>
> Here's a photo:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/379511081/
>
> Riv stuff is really so well made that the first saddlebag I bought is
> the last one I will probably ever need.
>
> Lesli Larson
>
> On Feb 6, 4:27 pm, "Doug Peterson" <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer?  I've never seen on in person but 
> > they look good in the photos & seem to be out of the way as far as your 
> > hands go.  I use my front bag for food, maps, & a handy stash spot for 
> > clothes.  As neat as it looks, the Lil Loafer looked a bit small for the 
> > price.  But what's your real world experience with it?
>
> > I have a black nylon ugly trunk bag that's roughly the size of the big 
> > loafer.  Hate the look but it works & that nylon stuff won't die so I have 
> > an excuse to replace it.  For supported tours it goes on the rear rack & 
> > the ancient Hobo as a h'bar bag.  Between food, clothes, & odds'n'ends, 
> > I've still managed to max that combo out.  The Hobo is actually a bit in 
> > the way as a h'bar bag, even with 42 cm.  
> > Junk expands to fill the available space.  
> > dougP
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:24 PM
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
>
> > I'm torn with them.  On the one hand, yeah, they are too fussy
> > loking.  On the other, they really look like the bees knees of bags.
> > Whether I get the medium or not is still being debated.
>
> > Right now, though, would rather have an olive tweed big loafer to
> > match my lil' loaf.  Going to run the Atlantis with a Nitto top rack,
> > and those two bags together should handle most day rides that don't
> > involve shopping.
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Feb 6, 1:56 pm, usuk2007 <clive.stand...@umassmed.edu> wrote:
> > > The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C
> > > or Camper
> > > but the Sackville costs twice as much.
>
> > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the
> > > boxy shape.
> > > Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside
> > > the bag. Maybe
> > > you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags
> > > as I
> > > see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the
> > > saddlebag tight up
> > > against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the
> > > bag.
>
> > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice,
> > > that's what real cyclists used ;-)
>
>

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