I think Wiki's a bit off on the metal densities.  This chart:

http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_metals.htm

says brass is on the order of 10% heavier than stainless steel.  That
would make sense, as both copper and zinc (the two elements that make
up most of brass) have higher atomic numbers and atomic weights than
iron.

This page:

http://www.onlinemetals.com/brassguide.cfm

shows yield strengths for brass around 50-60,000 psi, stronger for a
given thickness than 304 stainless steel (31,000 psi) or 6061T6
aluminum (40,000 psi), but weaker than 316SS (60,000 psi) or 7075
aluminum (73,000 psi).  IIRC the heat-treated 'super steels' used for
lightweight bike frames (like the Reynolds 753 in my Riv's) are up
around 120,000 psi - strong stuff!

I don't know about fatigue life, but depending on the alloy used brass
fenders should be as strong as stainless ones (Berthoud, VO), but a
bit heavier.  Aluminum fenders (Honjo, VO) have the advantage of being
able to be twice as thick as steel or brass ones, which should make
them both lighter and stronger.  Aluminum fatigues, though, so Al
fenders should probably be mounted to minimize flexing due to
vibration.

I know there are wooden fenders out there.  Does anyone make titanium
fenders?  Carbon fiber/kevlar/Spectra composite?

Bill


On Jan 14, 7:13 pm, benzzoy <benz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 14, 3:56 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm no metalurgist: how sturdy -- ie, resistant to dents and to permanent
> > bending -- is brass compared to aluminum? The alum fenders I own are very
> > stiff and dent resistant.
>
> It depends on how thick they make the fender.  According to the chart
> provided on wikipedia.org(1), brass deforms more easily than 2014-T6
> aluminum.  However, I doubt the Honjo fenders are made of such a high
> strength aluminum alloy.  They are probably made from a lower strength
> alloy that shouldn't be that different to brass in term of yield
> strength.
>
> > I suppose that brass would be closer in weight to steel than to aluminum?
>
> The density of brass is about midway between aluminum and steel; it's
> actually closest to titanium:
>
> Al = 2.7 g/cm^3
> Ti = 4.5 g/cm^3
> Brass = 5.3 g/cm^3
> Steel = 7.8 g/cm^3
>
> (1)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensile_strength
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