>From what I can tell, "expanded" differs from "compact" only in terms of how we measure the frame size - in other words, it's a matter of measurement convention rather than a practical difference. Compact frames are often measured along the seat tube based on where the top- tube would be if it was horizontal. Therefore, a 56 cm compact frame may have an actual seat tube that is only 52 cm c-c. If we use the same sizing scheme to measure the new Hillborne, a 56 cm is actually a 62 cm, or thereabouts. Suddenly tall people ride a 56 Rivendell, but a 63 cm Trek/Specialized/Cannondale/Etc. To long-time Rivendell fans, this new world order is going to take some mental adjustment... Of course, the bars can probably be raised higher on the 56 Riv than on most 63 cm bikes.
Another brand we sell formerly used a "virtual seat tube" measurement for frame size, but switched to actual seat tube measurement a year ago. Thus, a 2007 frame designated as a 58 cm compact was in 2008 designated a 54 cm expanded. They don't use the terms "expanded" and "compact", just the numbers. Nothing changed but the measurement technique. Confusing, what? Jim On Jan 7, 7:02 am, Will <wpm...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's interesting that the Sam "frame design is 'expanded,' which is > not at all like 'compact.' The top tube slopes up 6 degrees..." This > seems to me to be a departure from the usual 2-degree top tube we've > seen on most other RBW road models. A change in design philosophy? > > On Jan 6, 11:56 pm, "Doug Peterson" <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote: > > > Nice color, attractive without screaming "look at me". Classy. Especially > > like the braze on for the shifter cables. > > > More photos - rack mount details? Maybe a bike fully racked up? Aw, come > > on, it'll only take a few hours....please? > > > dougP > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John at Rivendell > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:35 PM > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Subject: [RBW] Hillbourne With Paint > > > Here are a few pictures of the green Hillbourne, just posted to the > > site. > > >http://www.rivbike.com/#product=50-700 > > > Cheers, > > > John at Rivendell > > Ulaan Batar Branch Office --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
