And I'm enjoying ride planning vicariously here in snow-bound Michigan...B-)


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From: [email protected] on behalf of Randy Graves
Sent: Sat 12/27/2008 2:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; Rob Harvey; [email protected]
Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
 

Please don't take it off-list!  I'm watching and contemplating.  Some of 
those hills East of Fallbrook have been my nemesis on past San Diego 
brevets, but I may go for it at the last minute...

Randy in Santa Barbara
(Orange Rambou)

David Estes wrote:
> I think option A sounds great!  If there are some more Quickbeams/SS 
> bikes, I'd prefer to bring mine.  Friend Rob can be talked into his (I 
> think).  Esteban, you going to roll on the QB?  Riding a QB with a 
> bunch of geared bikes is not the most fun in the world for me... :-)
>  
> I'm free anytime throug the 12th, so will let the rest of you come up 
> w/ a good date/time.
>  
> Should we start taking this conversation off list?
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM, RM <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>     Doug's option A does sounds good--south of Escondido you can go
>     through Elfin Forest/Del Dios and then back to the coast at Encinitas
>     then up to Oceanside. Hilly, but not heinous. I can join on my
>     Quickbeam. I live in Coronado and can Coaster up to Oceanside.
>
>     Rob
>
>
>     On Dec 26, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Chris wrote:
>
>     >
>     > Doug's idea sounds good to me also. As far as milage, I'm good to up
>     > to about 50 as long as we don't do any heinous climbs...
>     > Chris
>     >
>     > On Dec 26, 6:42 pm, Esteban <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >> Doug's Option A sounds pretty good - I've never ridden East from up
>     >> there, and it seems convienent for most OC IE and SD people, using
>     >> rail is a bonus.  We can do other rides next time.
>     >>
>     >> I'm on winter break, so free anytime (weekends OK too) except
>     >> Mondays.
>     >> -Esteban
>     >>
>     >> On Dec 26, 5:38 pm, "Doug Peterson" <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> The Oceanside train station is convenient.  OC & IE people can
>     >>> get there on
>     >>> Metrolink & SD people can come up on the Coaster.  From the
>     >>> station, a good
>     >>> general direction is to go inland (east) along the river trail &
>     >>> up to
>     >>> Fallbrook, south past Escondido, then there's a variety of ways
>     >>> to go west
>     >>> back to the coast, depending on how much mileage we want to do.
>     >>> I'd suggest
>     >>> something in the 40-50ish range.
>     >>
>     >>> Another option that's a little more complicated would be to meet
>     >>> in Rancho
>     >>> Bernardo area & do part of the Amgen route.  The complication
>     >>> would be
>     >>> either driving to the meet point (boooo!) or taking the Sprinter
>     >>> from
>     >>> Oceanside into Escondido (a 1 hour trip).
>     >>
>     >>> So David has 3-5 from the IE.  I don't know any other
>     >>> Rivendellians here in
>     >>> OC who'd join us but a couple of my touring buds would be
>     >>> interested.  How
>     >>> many San Diegans?  And you San Diego locals may have routes you'd
>     >>> like to
>     >>> suggest.
>     >>
>     >>> dougP
>     >>
>     >>>   _____
>     >>
>     >>> From: [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >>> [mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of David Estes
>     >>> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:02 PM
>     >>> To: [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>     >>
>     >>> Three cheers for the gainfully employed!!!!
>     >>
>     >>> Can't speak for other SoCalians, but I was thinking Oceanside to
>     >>> somewhere
>     >>> in S.D.???  Or San Clemente to Oceanside and back.  Guess it'll
>     >>> depend if
>     >>> more O.C. people jump on board vs. S.D. folk.  I've got about
>     >>> three-five IE
>     >>> people that can Metrolink down to wherever...
>     >>
>     >>> DE
>     >>
>     >>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Chris <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> unfortunatly , I'm one of those guys that have a job so the
>     >>> weekend is
>     >>> best for me. BTW- what kind of ride are we talking here, as far as
>     >>> milage/elevation?
>     >>
>     >>> On Dec 25, 12:32 pm, "David Estes" <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>> I'm available anytime as well... but am guessing weekend would
>     >>>> be better
>     >>> for
>     >>>> most normal people... I am definitely not one of those...
>     >>
>     >>>> David "uh-oh, it's raining outside, can't go for a ride now"
>     Estes
>     >>>> Redlands, CA
>     >>
>     >>>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Doug Peterson
>     >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>>>>  I'm available any time.  Are you guys free during the week or
>     >>>>> only
>     >>>>> weekends?  Where does everyone live?  I'm in Irvine.
>     >>
>     >>>>> BTW, that last day of the tour will be interesting.  The climb
>     >>>>> up Mt
>     >>>>> Palomar will be the place to be but Highland Valley Rd, just
>     >>>>> east of
>     >>> Rancho
>     >>>>> Bernardo, should also be good.  Maybe a scouting ride is in
>     >>>>> order.  But
>     >>> not
>     >>>>> the entire loop in one day, OK?
>     >>
>     >>>>> dougP
>     >>
>     >>>>>  ------------------------------
>     >>
>     >>>>> *From:* [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:
>     >>>>> [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *David Estes
>     >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:40 PM
>     >>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >>
>     >>>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>     >>
>     >>>>> Between the 4th and 11th works fine for me...
>     >>
>     >>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Chris <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>>> I'm in Sonoma County until the 30th, but could do something
>     after
>     >>>>> that.
>     >>
>     >>>>> On Dec 23, 5:56 pm, Esteban <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>>>>> I'm interested, for sure.  It would be nice to meet many of
>     >>>>>> you in
>     >>>>>> person.  I'm in SF until Jan. 4th - but if you guys get
>     something
>     >>>>>> together before then, I'll just make the next one.
>     >>
>     >>>>>> On Dec 23, 5:31 pm, "David Estes" <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>>>>> http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/Route/stages/stage8.html
>     >>
>     >>>>>>> BTW, any thoughts re. a SoCal coastal get-together in the
>     >>>>>>> upcoming
>     >>>>> days?
>     >>>>>>> Between Boxing Day and the 12th I'm pretty much available...
>     >>
>     >>>>>>> DE
>     >>
>     >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Doug Peterson
>     >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >>>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>> We've got to find a good long hill where we can watch.  I
>     went
>     >>> with
>     >>>>> some
>     >>>>>>>> people from LA last year to the top of a grade somewhere out
>     >>>>>>>> maybe
>     >>> in
>     >>>>>>>> Ventura County.  It was a circus & a lot of fun.  The actual
>     >>>>>>>> race
>     >>>>> group
>     >>>>>>>> goes
>     >>>>>>>> by so quickly, even on a steep grade, it's pretty
>     amazing.  But
>     >>> it's
>     >>>>> one of
>     >>>>>>>> those "getting there is half the fun" gigs.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>> The course is probably posted & we can figure it out.
>     >>>>>>>> Coming up

>     >>>>> soon.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>> dougP
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Chris
>     >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:06 PM
>     >>>>>>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>     >>>>>>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>> It starts in Ranch Bernardo (Poway area) and finishes in
>     >>>>>>>> downtoen
>     >>>>>>>> Escondido...sounds good to me
>     >>>>>>>> Chris
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 12:44 pm, rinjin <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>> Keep us posted if this idea gains traction. My brother
>     >>>>>>>>> lives in
>     >>>>> O'side
>     >>>>>>>>> and I've ridden there with him a few times. Some very nice
>     >>>>>>>>> rides
>     >>> in
>     >>>>>>>>> the area. To the north there's the Pendleton ride
>     through the
>     >>>>> Marine
>     >>>>>>>>> base and up the coast to Trestles and San Onofre. Southward
>     >>> there's
>     >>>>>>>>> Swami's and La Jolla. Best burritos are in Carlsbad. I
>     haven't
>     >>>>>>>>> traveled with my Ram before, but there's always a first
>     >>>>>>>>> time. If
>     >>> we
>     >>>>>>>>> wanted to get ambitious (in terms of organization) it's
>     worth
>     >>>>> thinking
>     >>>>>>>>> about the Tour de (duh?) California's schedule. I
>     believe the
>     >>> ninth
>     >>>>>>>>> and final stage will start in the Escondido area.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>> Brian
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 11:20 am, "David Estes"
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>> Doug, great idea!   L.A./O.C./I.E. folks could
>     Metrolink down
>     >>> to
>     >>>>>>>> Oceanside,
>     >>>>>>>>>> S.D. people could Metrolink or ride up.  Everyone rolls
>     south
>     >>> and
>     >>>>> then
>     >>>>>>>> can
>     >>>>>>>>>> Metrolink home!  Oceanside could be the meet-up, or maybe
>     >>>>>>>>>> even
>     >>>>> San
>     >>>>>>>> Clemente
>     >>>>>>>>>> if we're really motivated (not sure what shape I'm in for
>     >>> that,
>     >>>>> but an
>     >>>>>>>>>> option...)
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>> DE
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Doug Peterson <
>     >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >>>>>>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Although I'm up on Orange County, I'd be interested.  So
>     >>> far,
>     >>>>> I've
>     >>>>>>>> only run
>     >>>>>>>>>>> into one other Riv rider in my area, another guy with an
>     >>>>> Atlantis, &
>     >>>>>>>> he
>     >>>>>>>>>>> lives about 5 miles away.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> One of the things my touring buds & I do is take Metrolink
>     >>> down
>     >>>>> to
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Oceanside
>     >>>>>>>>>>> & either ride from there south or a couple of times we've
>     >>> taken
>     >>>>> the
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Sprinter
>     >>>>>>>>>>> out to Escondido & ridden from there.  Downtown for an
>     >>>>> overnight or
>     >>>>>>>> loops
>     >>>>>>>>>>> back to Oceanside.  Basically north county for you guys.
>     >>> Might
>     >>>>> be
>     >>>>>>>> fun
>     >>>>>>>> to
>     >>>>>>>>>>> explore further south.  Keep me in the loop.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> dougP
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of
>     >>> Chris
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:36 PM
>     >>>>>>>>>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Esteban,
>     >>>>>>>>>>> That sounds good to me, I'll be back after the new year as
>     >>>>> well. I
>     >>>>>>>>>>> know I met a guy in Encinitas one that said he rode an
>     >>> Atlantis
>     >>>>> I
>     >>>>>>>>>>> think...
>     >>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 8:58 pm, Esteban <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> Congrats on the mileage.  We need to get a little San
>     >>> Diego
>     >>>>> ride
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> together - maybe up to one of our stellar breweries.  I'm
>     >>>>> back in
>     >>>>>>>> town
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> from SF after the new year.  There's quite a few of us, I
>     >>>>> think.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 4:21 pm, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >>>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:35 -0800, Chris wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Patrick!
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW- To all the Saluki owners...I really wasn't saying
>     >>>>> the
>     >>>>>>>> Bleriot is
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comperable the Saluki, I'm sure there are tons of
>     >>>>>>>> differences...it
>     >>>>>>>>>>> was
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just striking to see the similarities. Of course, the
>     >>>>>>>> description of
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the intent of the bike is is pretty much the same
>     >>> on
>     >>>>> the
>     >>>>>>>> Riv
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, the similarities are intentional.  The Bleriot
>     >>>>> was
>     >>>>>>>> intended
>     >>>>>>>>>>> to
>     >>>>>>>>>>>>> be a less expensive version of the Saluki.
>     >>
>     >>>>>>>>>> --
>     >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>     >>>>>>>>>> David
>     >>>>>>>>>> Redlands, CA
>     >>
>     >>>>>>> --
>     >>>>>>> Cheers,
>     >>>>>>> David
>     >>>>>>> Redlands, CA
>     >>
>     >>>>> --
>     >>>>> Cheers,
>     >>>>> David
>     >>>>> Redlands, CA
>     >>
>     >>>> --
>     >>>> Cheers,
>     >>>> David
>     >>>> Redlands, CA
>     >>
>     >>> --
>     >>
>     >> ...
>     >>
>     >> read more ยป
>     > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> >





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