OK, thanks, I think I got it, but, I'm far from having a solution code in my 
head honestly.

What would be the ideal way for doing this for you (maintainers)? Should I 
close #5344 and #5323 and start with fresh PR(s) (perhaps the cleanest / safest 
option) or to extend #5344 or to create additional PR(s) that build on #5344?

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