Gotcha, thanks. As long as we were warned! I thought I remembered Sam mentioning something along the lines of an "AWS grant," but my memory is unreliable here.
On 11/22/21 9:57 AM, John Clements wrote: > Good questions: > > 1) Yes, Sam mentioned the discourse group at RacketCon, and there was some > “hallway” discussion about it. > 2) No, no sponsor was involved. Yikes! Indeed, I’m not aware that Racket > *has* any sponsors currently, aside from the research and infrastructure > grants that are being funded by the NSF et cetera. > > John > >> On Nov 22, 2021, at 09:52, Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for checking on this. I'd expect something like a CoC more than a ToS >> in this case, but terms are terms :) >> If you don't mind, I have a couple of follow up questions. >> >> • Were "rank-and-file" Racket contributors alerted to this change in >> advance? Say, in a RacketCon speech? I may have missed it. >> • Did a sponsor play any role in this transition? >> On 11/22/21 9:49 AM, John Clements wrote: >>> I’m actually very heartened to see the boilerplate here; it sounds like >>> this is something we can edit, and not something imposed by Discourse. If >>> that’s the case, then it certainly seems likely that we can find some >>> language (or, more importantly, *lack* of language) that makes more of us >>> happy. >>> >>> I, for one, am shocked to see binding arbitration language in here: I think >>> binding arbitration is one of the most revolting elements of corporate >>> control in our society today, and if we were unable to remove the binding >>> arbitration clause, I would likely abandon discourse myself. >>> >>> Sounds like the next step is to come up with a TOS that’s acceptable to >>> all, or find a way to remove it entirely. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 04:54, Norman Gray <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Greetings. >>>> >>>> On 22 Nov 2021, at 4:24, Sage Gerard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> But I have to ask, who wrote the ToS? Who is "the company" in its >>>>> >>>>> context? Discord? One of the Racket team's universities? A sponsor? >>>>> >>>> I'm not sure who 'the company' is, either, but they appear to be called >>>> 'company_name' (catchy!), and that users are notified that disputes can >>>> only be arbitrated in city_for_disputes, under governing_law. *cough* >>>> >>>> Such curiosities aside, all of that does represent unappealingly more >>>> legalese than one expects for a mailing list. But since the current list >>>> is hosted at googlegroups, and since it's not obvious that Discourse Corp >>>> is more predatory than Google Corp (indeed, the former is dispensing >>>> freemium-ware rather than ad-ware, so are more attractive in terms of >>>> business model), it feels irrational for me to be too put off by it. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Norman >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Norman Gray : >>>> https://nxg.me.uk >>>> >>>> SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Racket Users" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> . >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/BEC261BF-C274-4221-8F62-C77D181ED1EF%40glasgow.ac.uk >>>> . >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/b78997fa-d576-10a9-8911-76035f9bc83a%40sagegerard.com.
