I had no problem with your comment. 

My reply was somewhat tongue in cheek (though I really don't like Che Guevara). 
I do like the idea of liberating languages that are hiding in all kinds of 
places and thats' what Racket is about. 

-- Matthias





On Feb 10, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Norman Gray wrote:

> 
> Robby (and Matthias), hello.
> 
> On 2013 Feb 10, at 21:05, Robby Findler <ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Is this intended to be sarcastic? Do you believe the creators of something 
>> (that they give away even) are not free to plan for its future?
> 
> Sarcastic?  Ermmm, no, it was not intended to be sarcastic.  Really not.  
> Indeed, in a couple of decades of posting via uucp and smtp I think this may 
> be the bit of any text I've written which has been most diametrically 
> misunderstood.
> 
> My remark was intended to be straightforwardly laudatory.  Matthias's call 
> seems a fine manifesto for a better and highly parenthesised future, and the 
> sort of thing that should probably end up blu-tacced to somebody's wall, with 
> or without a highly contrasty picture of Matthias (who may or may not be 
> photogenic, I don't know).
> 
> I see that Matthias says:
> 
>> I see myself much more as the Milton Friedman of the Lisp family than some 
>> fake clone of a murderer-terrorist :-) 
> 
> Friedman and the Chicago School?  Hmm, I'm not entirely sure where we're 
> going there.
> 
> Guevara?  I was intending to invoke iconic optimism rather than the messy 
> intricacies of brute history, and bracketing this with 'We hold these 
> truths...' was intended to evoke other iconic optimisms (rather than messy 
> intricacies).  However I think this may have been a poor choice, since he 
> (and as it turns out Friedman) are figures with radically different valencies 
> here and in the various Americas, and are ipso facto a poor choice for 
> apothegms.
> 
> I don't think those valencies are obviously useful to discuss on-list.  In 
> case it's not clear: any negative personal connotations a reader detects in 
> these remarks, that reader should consider retracted.
> 
> Oh dear....
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
> -- 
> Norman Gray  :  http://nxg.me.uk
> SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK
> 


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