> Unless you are headed for CS grad school or are Google/Microsoft material > (by ability > or by being in a brand name school) nobody really cares about your CS degree. I'm a self-taught programmer that would love to get an entry-level programming job. I've yet to see a job listing that doesn't ask for a degree in CS, or some kind of technical degree in programming. (Not that I look *very* hard.)
I guess I could spend time on rent-a-coder or something but practically speaking, it seems to me like everyone cares about a CS *degree*, even if they then summarily ignore what was ostensibly taught for the degree. Deren On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:58 AM, wooks . <woo...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Sorry if you got this twice..... I think my first reply missed the list. > > Well you will note that the first link was from an American source. > > If you google "hi tech underclass" China comes up alot. > > Then there is this > > ABSTRACT > > The primary aim of this paper is to identify future help which can > contribute > towards reducing the unemployment rate of graduates in Malaysia, especially > those with > Computer Science Degrees. It does so by gaining initial insights into this > problem > through two groups: graduates and employers. The data draws on why graduates > are > unemployed from their own perspective as well as employers’ expectations > towards the > new workforce. The study concludes with two striking observations. Firstly, > the > graduates themselves feel that they are to be blamed for being unemployed. > In addition, > the employers too feel similarly, so reinforcing graduates’ attitudes as one > of the major > reasons for graduates’ unemployment. > > link to the paper below. > > http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ej8fSFctCRMJ:aabss.org/Perspectives2008/AABSS2008Article6NORSHIMAZSHAH.pdf+graduate+unemployment+computer+science&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjDKecXPDAO072-bMR-QpeeVE2OAouJBnyX8hFhKddBZOYkvX7w0gn4xOonMlWUzA3tQ9SD9-NqxCZFc19ZxxBvnHt9E_oRl4J56n6dM1Sn_a4A_QVWI7Gvn-DytljNRxK5IxAS&sig=AHIEtbRX6abLpTRll1r47KDYML4wdFWl6Q > > To selectively quote > > "While the situation in the United States may not be so dire, in truth few > companies share Google's zeal for academic credentials when hiring new > developers. " > ......... > "To be sure, an advanced degree in computer science from a prestigious > university such as Cal Tech, Carnegie-Mellon, or Stanford is still a > valuable asset for any job-seeker. Companies such as IBM, Google, and > Microsoft, which compete on the highest levels of the computing industry, > rely on doctoral graduates for the groundbreaking R&D that forms the basis > of their cutting-edge products. Smaller companies with less ambitious goals, > on the other hand, may have little need for such specialized expertise, > particularly if they aren't in the business of selling software." > > I think those are killer arguments. > > Unless you are headed for CS grad school or are Google/Microsoft material > (by ability or by being in a brand name school) nobody really cares about > your CS degree. > > > > > > > > > Matthias said > > > Is this possibly a reflection on the UK system? > _________________________________________________ > > For list-related administrative tasks: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/users > > _________________________________________________ > For list-related administrative tasks: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/users > _________________________________________________ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/users
