Yan, great, thanks! I'll put the touchbar changes into the release. I also started looking at some of the warnings - the button ones are easy to fix. Although you can move the Release build to Applications, it is not signed, so you may get a warning when you run it - otherwise it is safe. When I make the change it will be in the nightly builds in https://mac.R-project.org and those are signed so that will be the best.
Thanks, Simon > On May 9, 2021, at 9:25 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> wrote: > > Simon, > > Yes, I tried to play with touch bar preferences, to no avail. > > On the bright side, I also tested your build. Both debug and release version > work. There was one NS warning in the release version, but it did not > affected at all the test (I was running the same sequence as I described in > the original message). > > In the following transfer are the sampler files for both versions: > https://www.dropbox.com/t/xDqbbZma9i0XdHBk > <https://www.dropbox.com/t/xDqbbZma9i0XdHBk> > > I am tempted to slide the new release version to /Applicaitons and use it > instead of the one shipped with the CRAN release; is it safe to do so? > > Yan > > > On May 7, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org > <mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>> wrote: > > Yan, > > it's ok, I didn't need the Debug version. > > However, did you check the Touch Bar settings as discussed previously to see > if disabling the app Touch Bar fixes the problem? > If it does, there may be hope - I have created a test version at > https://github.com/R-macos/Mac-GUI/actions/runs/820226842 > <https://github.com/R-macos/Mac-GUI/actions/runs/820226842> > at the bottom there is "R-GUI-Build" link under Artifacts which gives you a > zip file with R-GUI-Build.dmg image which has both release and debug version > which disable the Touch Bar for the console (built for R 4.0.x). Please let > me know if that works for you. > > Thanks, > Simon > > > >> On May 7, 2021, at 2:37 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> wrote: >> >> Thank you Simon, >> >> Brandon suggested to use the debug version of the R-gui, but you seem to be >> ok with what I sent. Please let me know if you also want the sampler files >> using the the debug version. >> >> Also, if you need me to test the fixes / updates, please don’t hesitate. >> >> Yan >> >> >> On May 6, 2021, at 4:30 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> >> wrote: >> >> Yan, >> >> thank you for the sampler files! >> >> From cursory glance the issue seems to be the touch bar, an amazing amount >> of time is spent in the Apple's touchbar API (almost all of it is in some >> way related to [NSTextView(NSTextView_TouchBar_API) >> updateTextTouchBarItems]). That also explains why I was not able to >> reproduce it, because I don't have a Mac with touch bar and Big Sur. I don't >> know what is available in the settings, but you may want to see if you can >> adjust your touch bar system preferences (if I recall there are different >> options for the touch bar) - the R GUI doesn't use the touch bar at all, so >> the issue is entirely at the system level. I will look is there is anything >> we can do to block the touch bar API on our end or otherwise deal with it by >> have R explicitly handle the touch bar. >> >> Thanks, >> Simon >> >> >> >>> On 4/05/2021, at 7:10 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> wrote: >>> >>> Simon, >>> >>> I sampled the process of my test (the slowdown). I was able to do it >>> without downloading the "Debug" version. There are two files attached. >>> 1. The first one (run at 8:58:14 am) is the replication of my test (the >>> slowdown) using the external editor >>> 2. The second (run at 9:05:09 am) is the replication of my test using the >>> in-built editor >>> >>> While doing the second sampling R also popped the red warnings (if that is >>> useful). >>> >>> I am also answering Peter’s question: my version of Big Sur is 11.3. >>> >>> Let me know what else I can do to help. >>> Yan >>> >>> >>> On May 4, 2021, at 5:53 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yan, >>> >>> thanks for the reports. I cannot reproduce the slow-down, either (Mac mini >>> M1, Big Sur 11.3). >>> >>> However, you can help by sampling the R process and sending the sample to >>> me. You can do that as follows: >>> >>> 1) open R.app >>> 2) open Terminal (under Applications -> Utilities) >>> 3) in Terminal type: >>> >>> sample R 30 >>> >>> 4) switch to R and perform your test. You have 30 seconds (that's the >>> number above which specifies how long the sampler will run) to do it. In >>> Terminal it will show the sampler output -in the beginning it will also >>> tell you the location of the text file - it's typically /tmp/R_*.sample.txt >>> - send that file to me. >>> >>> It may not allow you to debug the released version of the GUI, so you may >>> need to download the "Debug" version of the GUI (scroll down) from >>> >>> https://mac.R-project.org >>> >>> You should pick the >>> Mac OS X GUI rev.XXX for R 4.0.x >>> high-sierra-Release.dmg >>> download if you have R 4.0.x. You don't need to install the GUI, you can >>> run it directly from the image so it won't affect your installed version. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Simon >>> >>> PS: you may need to install Xcode command line tools if you didn't already: >>> sudo xcode-select --install >>> >>> >>>> On 4/05/2021, at 3:06 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <alperov...@em-lyon.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Peter, Simon, >>>> >>>> Since I am not that of an expert in programming, is there any way to trace >>>> what happens 'under the hood' of the gui to see what exactly slows down >>>> the rendering of output on my end? >>>> >>>> On the warnings, some more came today. How that happened and the text that >>>> came out are below. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your help, >>>> Yan >>>> >>>> I looked at the Preferences -> Editor (once the window popped up, I >>>> clicked on the Editor with a mouse and the error came). >>>> ... >>>> 2021-05-03 16:50:36.184 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd104c17b0>) to be less than or >>>> equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once >>>> per view in violation. >>>> 2021-05-03 16:50:36.186 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd09dde780>) to be less than or >>>> equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once >>>> per view in violation. >>>> … >>>> >>>> In another instance, hitting cmd-n (new native editor window) gave me this: >>>> ... >>>> 2021-05-03 16:59:03.469 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1075a9b0>) to be less than or >>>> equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once >>>> per view in violation. >>>> 2021-05-03 16:59:03.471 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1075c140>) to be less than or >>>> equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once >>>> per view in violation. >>>> 2021-05-03 16:59:22.225 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1270c2e0>) to be less than or >>>> equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once >>>> per view in violation. >>>> 2021-05-03 16:59:22.226 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1270d070>) to be less than or >>>> equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once >>>> per view in violation. >>>> … >>>> >>>> When in native editor, I hit cmd-w (popping the save file request) gave me >>>> this: >>>> ... >>>> 2021-05-03 16:59:24.024 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of >>>> view: (<NSButton: 0x7ffd1271c7a0>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got >>>> a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in >>>> violation. >>>> ... >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 2, 2021, at 11:03 AM, peter dalgaard >>>> <pda...@gmail.com<mailto:pda...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> 2019 MB Air here, Big Sur, 4.0.5 off CRAN. I don't see the issue either. >>>> (I do see the "...warmup" thing, though.) >>>> >>>> - Peter D. >>>> >>>> On 1 May 2021, at 21:01 , ALPEROVYCH Yan >>>> <alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Simon, >>>> >>>> Regarding the "NS..." warnings, the following came just now when I closed >>>> the plot window (after a ggplot) with a mouse. >>>> >>>> 2021-05-01 20:53:35.117 R[2344:57535] +[NSSavePanel _warmUp] attempted >>>> warmup >>>> >>>> Since they are usually random, I will log them for some time, and report >>>> back. >>>> >>>> Yan >>>> >>>> On May 1, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Simon Urbanek >>>> <simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org><mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yan, >>>> >>>> Thank you for the report, comments inline. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 1, 2021, at 03:56, ALPEROVYCH Yan >>>> <alperov...@em-lyon.com<mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com><mailto:alperov...@em-lyon.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Beyond the occasional red warnings about the 'NSPop….' buttons, warmups, >>>> etc. and similar issues reported elsewhere here I’ve noted the slowdown of >>>> R console with more and more output. Here is what I do to reliably >>>> reproduced it on my machine - MacBook Pro 2017 with Touch Bar >>>> (sessionInfo() is below). >>>> >>>> >>>> There are no known issues in R 4.0.5 so if you see any please report them. >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Start fresh R-gui >>>> >>>> 2. Paste the following text in the editor. Note that lines are commented, >>>> this is enough to show the problem. It obvisouly gets worse if R has to >>>> evaluate. >>>> >>>> # m[[ 1]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2)) >>>> # m[[ 2]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x3)) >>>> # m[[ 3]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x4)) >>>> # m[[ 4]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x5)) >>>> # m[[ 5]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x6)) >>>> # m[[ 6]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x7)) >>>> # m[[ 7]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x8)) >>>> # m[[ 8]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x9)) >>>> # m[[ 9]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x10)) >>>> # m[[10]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x11)) >>>> >>>> 3. Execute as block once - the output appears almost immediately. Execute >>>> the second time - the slight delay is already noticeable. Continue to 3-4 >>>> time and the delay between the Cmd+Enter and the output is now up to 3-4 >>>> seconds and occasional beachball… >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, I only have Catalina here and it does not exhibit that behaviour, >>>> the execution is always immediate. I'll try on the M1 Big Sur machine on >>>> Monday. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any help is greatly appreciated. >>>> Yan >>>> >>>> Here is the sessionInfo() >>>> >>>> ****** >>>> R version 4.0.5 (2021-03-31) >>>> Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit) >>>> Running under: macOS Big Sur 10.16 >>>> >>>> Matrix products: default >>>> BLAS: >>>> /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRblas.dylib >>>> LAPACK: >>>> /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib >>>> >>>> locale: >>>> [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 >>>> >>>> attached base packages: >>>> [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base >>>> >>>> loaded via a namespace (and not attached): >>>> [1] compiler_4.0.5 >>>> >>>> >>>> Ce message électronique et tous les fichiers attachés qu'il contient sont >>>> confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à l'usage de la personne à >>>> laquelle ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci >>>> de le retourner à son émetteur. Les idées et opinions présentées dans ce >>>> message sont celles de son auteur, et ne représentent pas nécessairement >>>> celles de l’institution ou les entités affiliées dont dépend l’auteur. La >>>> publication, l'usage, la distribution, l'impression ou la copie non >>>> autorisée de ce message et des attachements qu'il contient sont >>>> strictement interdits ». “This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity >>>> to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error >>>> please return it to the sender. The ideas and views expressed in this >>>> email are solely those of its author, and do not necessarily represent the >>>> views of the institution or company the author is dependent from. >>>> Unauthorized publication, use, distribution, printing or copying of this >>>> e-mail or any attached files is strictly forbidden. >>>> >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org><mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org> >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >>>> >>>> Ce message électronique et tous les fichiers attachés qu'il contient sont >>>> confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à l'usage de la personne à >>>> laquelle ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci >>>> de le retourner à son émetteur. Les idées et opinions présentées dans ce >>>> message sont celles de son auteur, et ne représentent pas nécessairement >>>> celles de l’institution ou les entités affiliées dont dépend l’auteur. La >>>> publication, l'usage, la distribution, l'impression ou la copie non >>>> autorisée de ce message et des attachements qu'il contient sont >>>> strictement interdits ». “This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity >>>> to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error >>>> please return it to the sender. The ideas and views expressed in this >>>> email are solely those of its author, and do not necessarily represent the >>>> views of the institution or company the author is dependent from. >>>> Unauthorized publication, use, distribution, printing or copying of this >>>> e-mail or any attached files is strictly forbidden. >>>> >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor, >>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School >>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark >>>> Phone: (+45)38153501 >>>> Office: A 4.23 >>>> Email: pd....@cbs.dk<mailto:pd....@cbs.dk> Priv: >>>> pda...@gmail.com<mailto:pda...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org> >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >>>> >>>> Ce message électronique et tous les fichiers attachés qu'il contient sont >>>> confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à l'usage de la personne à >>>> laquelle ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci >>>> de le retourner à son émetteur. Les idées et opinions présentées dans ce >>>> message sont celles de son auteur, et ne représentent pas nécessairement >>>> celles de l’institution ou les entités affiliées dont dépend l’auteur. La >>>> publication, l'usage, la distribution, l'impression ou la copie non >>>> autorisée de ce message et des attachements qu'il contient sont >>>> strictement interdits ». “This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity >>>> to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error >>>> please return it to the sender. The ideas and views expressed in this >>>> email are solely those of its author, and do not necessarily represent the >>>> views of the institution or company the author is dependent from. >>>> Unauthorized publication, use, distribution, printing or copying of this >>>> e-mail or any attached files is strictly forbidden. >>>> >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >>> >>> Ce message électronique et tous les fichiers attachés qu'il contient sont >>> confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à l'usage de la personne à laquelle >>> ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci de le >>> retourner à son émetteur. Les idées et opinions présentées dans ce message >>> sont celles de son auteur, et ne représentent pas nécessairement celles de >>> l’institution ou les entités affiliées dont dépend l’auteur. La >>> publication, l'usage, la distribution, l'impression ou la copie non >>> autorisée de ce message et des attachements qu'il contient sont strictement >>> interdits ». “This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>> and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >>> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please return it to >>> the sender. The ideas and views expressed in this email are solely those of >>> its author, and do not necessarily represent the views of the institution >>> or company the author is dependent from. Unauthorized publication, use, >>> distribution, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is >>> strictly forbidden. >>> <R_2021-05-04_085814_nXVv.sample.txt><R_2021-05-04_090509_kVEq.sample.txt>_______________________________________________ >>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >> >> >> Ce message électronique et tous les fichiers attachés qu'il contient sont >> confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à l'usage de la personne à laquelle >> ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci de le >> retourner à son émetteur. Les idées et opinions présentées dans ce message >> sont celles de son auteur, et ne représentent pas nécessairement celles de >> l’institution ou les entités affiliées dont dépend l’auteur. La publication, >> l'usage, la distribution, l'impression ou la copie non autorisée de ce >> message et des attachements qu'il contient sont strictement interdits ». >> “This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended >> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. >> If you have received this email in error please return it to the sender. The >> ideas and views expressed in this email are solely those of its author, and >> do not necessarily represent the views of the institution or company the >> author is dependent from. Unauthorized publication, use, distribution, >> printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is strictly >> forbidden. > > > Ce message électronique et tous les fichiers attachés qu'il contient sont > confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à l'usage de la personne à laquelle > ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci de le > retourner à son émetteur. Les idées et opinions présentées dans ce message > sont celles de son auteur, et ne représentent pas nécessairement celles de > l’institution ou les entités affiliées dont dépend l’auteur. La publication, > l'usage, la distribution, l'impression ou la copie non autorisée de ce > message et des attachements qu'il contient sont strictement interdits ». > “This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If > you have received this email in error please return it to the sender. The > ideas and views expressed in this email are solely those of its author, and > do not necessarily represent the views of the institution or company the > author is dependent from. Unauthorized publication, use, distribution, > printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is strictly > forbidden. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
