On 08/03/2021 17:59, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
I updated the OS to 11.2.2, again redownloaded the app
https://mac.r-project.org/libs-arm64/emacs-27.1-app-arm64-darwin20.dmg
and still get the damaged app message.
How did you download it? That page and R-admin recommend using curl and
when I did that it works for me, both running from the image and copying
somewhere other than /Applications (as I have another Emacs there).
OTOH, I've not seen any problems with Vincent Goulet's Intel build on my
M1 Mac. The posting guide for this list does ask you not to use 'crash'
....
I attempted Ctrl-Click Open (hoping to get past the app from untrusted source
issue) and that also gave me the Damaged App message.
The next option they offer is
"
4: Use xattr on the App Throwing the Damaged Error
This is sort of a last resort and is only recommended for advanced Mac users.
Generally speaking if the app is still throwing a ‘damaged’ error message you
might want to not use it. Use this at your own risk.
With the command line you can use xattr to view and remove extended attributes
from a file on the Mac including the application throwing the “Appname.app is
damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash.” error message.
Launch Terminal and then issue the following command:
xattr -cr /path/to/application.app
"
and I am not willing to do that.
Perhaps if I compile on my machine from your recipe, it might work.
I am a git novice, so I will need an explicit statement and instructions to try
that.
Rich
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I tried the all-purpose computer repair and rebooted the machine. It still
reports a damaged app.
I am now ooking at
https://osxdaily.com/2019/02/13/fix-app-damaged-cant-be-opened-trash-error-mac/
and wi report back.
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yes, I did. that also gave the same message.
Also, the ~/Downloads and ~/Desktop directories are no longer available from
the original intel Emacs (I changed
its name to Emacs-21.7-intel.app).
it says "access-files" are available.
This is familiar. I had it before. the answer is here, and it works.
https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/53904/why-cant-i-list-the-contents-of-desktop-on-macos-using-dired
I don't this this is the damage problem.
I have downloaded it three times from R-project and I get the same "damaged"
problem each time.
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Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 23:52
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Did you try running it from the image? At which point does it complain? It
works for me.
Note that macOS may not be happy if you mangle the content due to code signing,
so you may want to move aside the old version first if you are putting it in
/Applications.
Unfortunately I have only one M1 system, so I can't try it on another "clean"
one to see if there are issues.
Cheers,
Simon
On Mar 8, 2021, at 5:43 PM, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
it claims to be damaged.
I looked it and the filenames and directory structure look ok.
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Richard,
please note the binary supports mouse integration if you enable it (see Emacs
documentation - ad-hoc: M-x xterm-mouse-mode).
Like I said, it is trivial to build the GUI version of you care - I have very
explicitly disabled the GUI since I hate it personally (I want emacs to run in
the terminal, not have it pop-up random windows). But you seem to think
otherwise ;) so I have added the app build as well:
https://mac.r-project.org/libs-arm64/emacs-27.1-app-arm64-darwin20.dmg
Cheers,
Simon
On Mar 8, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
Simon's binary works. As he noted, it is missing mouse support.
I copied the entirety of
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp
into
/opt/R/arm64/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp
I turned off the request for mouse support in
site-lisp/site-start.el
by changing the first mouse line (line 47) to
(if (equal 'system-configuration "x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0") (mouse-wheel-mode
t)); activate mouse scrolling on intel
I opened Terminal and started emacs with
/opt/R/arm64/bin/emacs
It gives an ERROR:ess-etc-directory which I can ignore (it looks to me like the
../etc is there).
it gives a warning about server which I am ignoring for now.
M-x R works.
the major mouse functionality I miss are replaced by C-x ^ and C-x } and C-x o
make-frame doesn't make a new frame.
I had hoped that I could drop files from this version into the complete setup
that Vincent Goulet has
provided. The file structure isn't identical, so that won't work naively.
Now to see if I prefer the mouse-accesible x86_64 with random crashes or the
aarch64 (presumably more stable) without mouse ability.
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Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 18:31
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Cc: r-sig-mac@r-project.org
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My understanding had been that "universal" meant both intel and arm, and
therefore
that _10 and _14 was the indicator. Apparently not.
I will look at the binary that Simon just told us about.
I don't know how to check though, because the highly frequent crashes I see have
nothing obvious in common.
Rich
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you should likely re-post to the list or double check the download as
there are no x86_64 + amd64 universal binaries in there:
$ find /Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS -type f -exec file {} \;
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_10/ctags:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_10/ebrowse:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_10/emacsclient:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_10/etags:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_14/ctags:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_14/ebrowse:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_14/emacsclient:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin-x86_64-10_14/etags:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs: Ruby script text,
UTF-8 Unicode text
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs-x86_64-10_10: Mach-O
64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs-x86_64-10_10.pdmp: data
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs-x86_64-10_14: Mach-O
64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs-x86_64-10_14.pdmp: data
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs.pdmp: data
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libffi.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libgmp.10.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libgnutls.30.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libhogweed.4.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libjansson.4.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libnettle.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libp11-kit.0.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libtasn1.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/lib-x86_64-10_10/libunistring.2.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libffi.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libgmp.10.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libgnutls.30.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libhogweed.4.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libjansson.4.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libnettle.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libp11-kit.0.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libtasn1.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_10/libunistring.2.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libffi.7.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libgmp.10.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libgnutls.30.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libhogweed.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libidn2.0.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libintl.8.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libjansson.4.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libnettle.8.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libp11-kit.0.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libtasn1.6.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/lib-x86_64-10_14/libunistring.2.dylib:
Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec-x86_64-10_10/hexl:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec-x86_64-10_10/movemail:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec-x86_64-10_10/rcs2log:
POSIX shell script executable (binary data)
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec-x86_64-10_14/hexl:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec-x86_64-10_14/movemail:
Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec-x86_64-10_14/rcs2log:
POSIX shell script executable (binary data)
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 1:50 PM Richard M. Heiberger <r...@temple.edu> wrote:
I originally asked this question on the ess-help list, I now think it belongs
here.
emacs 21.1, specifically Vincent Goulet's distribution, crashes regularly on my
Mac M1.
It looks to me like it is using the intel compilation through rosetta instead
of the arm
compilation.
Vincent's distribution is based on
https://emacsformacosx.com/emacs-builds/Emacs-27.1-1-universal.dmg
which contains
lrwxr-xr-x 1 rmh staff 16 Aug 12 2020 bin -> bin-x86_64-10_10
drwxr-xr-x 6 rmh staff 204 Aug 12 2020 bin-x86_64-10_10
drwxr-xr-x 6 rmh staff 204 Aug 12 2020 bin-x86_64-10_14
The crash report says
My March 1 crash report said
Process: Emacs-x86_64-10_14 [1112]
Path: /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs-x86_64-10_14
Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs
Version: Version 27.1 (9.0)
Code Type: X86-64 (Translated)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Emacs-x86_64-10_14 [1112]
which I interpret as saying that it ran the intel compilation
Responsible: Emacs-x86_64-10_14 [1112]
translated through
rosetta. It seems not to have run the arm compilation, even though the link
rwxr-xr-x 1 rmh staff 16 Aug 12 2020 bin -> bin-x86_64-10_10
looks to me like it should have been running bin-x86_64-10_10
Is my interpretation correct? and if so how do I get the program to run the
native M1
compilation.
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