Aside from the package question, surely the other issue here is that Prof Ripley’s email is extraordinarily rude. Any paid employee would be sacked for that. I appreciate R and CRAN are volunteer-run organisations, but I don’t think that should be an excuse for this level of, frankly, toxicity. Why is he allowed to get away with it?
David On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 11:15, Alberto Garre <garre.albe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear community, > > I feel dismay for having to write this email, but the issue must be brought > up. On the 20th of October, I received an email from CRAN warning me of an > issue with one of the packages I maintain (bioOED). The package depended on > MEIGOR, a package that was no longer available in Bioconductor. I was given > until 2023-11-03 to fix the issue. > > I contacted the MEIGOR maintainers and they told me they were migrating to > CRAN. Yesterday, they contacted me again, telling me they needed more time > for the migration. Hence, I responded to the email I received from CRAN, > asking for an extension of the previous deadline (2023-11-03). > > To my surprise, it is not just that the extension was not granted, but the > package has been removed from CRAN today (2023-11-01). Two days before the > deadline (2023-11-03): https://cran.r-project.org/package=bioOED > > Then, I checked my inbox and I saw an email from one of the CRAN > maintainers, showing that the package was removed because he had felt > offended by my email. I copy-paste the email below. > > I understand that maintaining CRAN must be a huge work. I also work in > academia, so I am totally aware of all the extra work that is required from > us. But it is unreasonable that a package can be removed just because a > maintainer throws a tantrum > > Again, I am really sorry I had to write this email, but CRAN cannot work if > we allow this type of situation. > > Kind regards, > Alberto Garre > > ## Mail from rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk on 2023-11-01 8:28 > > On 31/10/2023 17:21, Alberto Garre wrote: > > Dear Brian, > > Do be respectful whoever you are (you lack the manners to use a > signature block but send HTML when you agreed not to!). What exactly > have you done for me that would allow you treat me as if I were your peer? > > Your ingratitude (for CRAN and R) is deafening. > > > I have talked to the MEIGOR developers and they need a bit more time to > > update their package. Would it be possible to get a 4 weeks extension for > > the update of bioOED? > > No one can even install it in current R, so it has been removed. > > "The time of the volunteers is CRAN’s most precious resource" > > Professor Ripley > > > > > Thank you very much, > > Alberto > > > > > > El vie, 20 oct 2023 a las 9:24, Alberto Garre (<garre.albe...@gmail.com > >) > > escribió: > > > >> Thank you very much, Brian. > >> > >> I have just contacted the developers of MEIGOR because I think they were > >> planning a migration to CRAN. I will update the package asap. > >> > >> Best, > >> Alberto > >> > >> > >> El vie, 20 oct 2023 a las 9:22, Prof Brian Ripley (< > rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk > >) > >> escribió: > >> > >>> On 20/10/2023 08:17, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > >>>> Dear maintainer, > >>>> > >>>> Please see the problems shown on > >>>> <https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_bioOED.html>. > >>>> > >>>> Please correct before 2023-11-03 to safely retain your package on > CRAN. > >>>> > >>>> The CRAN Team > >>>> > >>> This requires package MEIGOR which is not part of BioC 3.18 and has > been > >>> deprecated so it very unlikely to be part of the final release next > week. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk > >>> Emeritus Professor of Applied Statistics, University of Oxford > >>> > >>> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel > -- Writing: wyclif.substack.com Book: www.wyclifsdust.com [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel
