I think trying to guess where topics have moved will be hard. I'll consider version links. David
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 17:04, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree, really nice. > > One suggestion would be to check for the existence of the corresponding > topic link. > > For example, > <https://hughjonesd.github.io/r-help/2.9.0/graphics/plot.html> links to > <https://stat.ethz.ch/R-manual/R-patched/library/graphics/html/plot.html>, > > which doesn't exist. The generic is now in the base package, at > <https://stat.ethz.ch/R-manual/R-patched/library/base/html/plot.html>. > > Duncan Murdoch > > On 30/06/2023 11:37 a.m., Ben Bolker wrote: > > Nice! (I like "A longer description will go here eventually.") > > > > It would be cute/handy to have navigation links available for "go to > > this help page in the next (previous) version of R" (if it's not a huge > > pain) > > > > On 2023-06-30 11:10 a.m., David Hugh-Jones wrote: > >> OK, so I took Jeff's hint and did this myself! > >> > >> https://github.com/hughjonesd/r-help > >> > >> Sample page for ?plot from the first version of R (at least, the first > >> version that is on svn): > >> > >> https://hughjonesd.github.io/r-help/0.60/base/plot.html > >> > >> Not everything is guaranteed to work, so please report bugs if you find > any. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> David > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 13:23, David Hugh-Jones < > davidhughjo...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> There are plenty of places to find current docs. I think it’s fine to > have > >>> versioned ones also. I agree it would be a good idea to clearly signal > >>> “hey, this is an old version” - indeed I’ve been bitten by that in > python > >>> before. I’m working on this now… will see what I can do. > >>> > >>> Does anyone happen to know if it’s possible to create 00index files > >>> without installing the relevant package? (Loading R 0.60 is > challenging…) > >>> > >>> D > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 13:02, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 30/06/2023 7:57 a.m., David Hugh-Jones wrote: > >>>>> Static web pages get indexed by google. > >>>> > >>>> Isn't that an argument against having static pages? If I do a Google > >>>> search for "R lm" I think it's better to find the current docs rather > >>>> than dozens of obsolete versions. It's rare that someone wants to see > >>>> changes across versions, so doing that should take extra work. > >>>> > >>>> Duncan Murdoch > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> David > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 09:55, Duncan Murdoch < > murdoch.dun...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Why store them? Download the source on demand, and convert it. > >>>> Seems > >>>>> pretty simple. > >>>>> > >>>>> Duncan Murdoch > >>>>> > >>>>> On 30/06/2023 1:19 a.m., David Hugh-Jones wrote: > >>>>> > This is for the rcheology package. I run a Shiny web app > which > >>>>> lets you > >>>>> > examine changes to functions across R versions: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > https://hughjonesd.shinyapps.io/rcheology/ > >>>>> <https://hughjonesd.shinyapps.io/rcheology/> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Manually storing and converting the Rd might be possible, > but it > >>>>> would be > >>>>> > burdensome in terms of data (and my time). And if the Rd > spec has > >>>>> changed > >>>>> > across versions, that’s another problem. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > More generally, shouldn’t there be publicly available > versioned > >>>>> > documentation? Python has had this for a long time. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > David > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 01:01, Jeff Newmiller > >>>>> <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us <mailto:jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us>> > >>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> >> Sure. On your computer. Install the old version of R and > let it > >>>>> serve the > >>>>> >> relevant docs. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Dunno of anyone doing this historical dive online for you > >>>>> though. Why > >>>>> >> would you want preformatted docs if you didn't have those > old > >>>>> versions > >>>>> >> installed? > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On June 29, 2023 4:23:55 PM PDT, David Hugh-Jones < > >>>>> >> davidhughjo...@gmail.com <mailto:davidhughjo...@gmail.com > >> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> >>> That’s useful to know. But is there anywhere with > preformatted > >>>>> HTML pages? > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> Cheers, D > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 21:46, Ivan Krylov > >>>>> <krylov.r...@gmail.com <mailto:krylov.r...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 20:22:47 +0100 > >>>>> >>>> David Hugh-Jones <davidhughjo...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:davidhughjo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking for a source of online help for R base > >>>>> >>>>> packages, which covers all versions (for some reasonable > >>>> value of > >>>>> >>>>> "all"). So e.g. the equivalent of `?lm` for R 4.1.0. > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> These live in the R source tree, under src/library: > >>>>> >>>> https://svn.r-project.org/R/trunk/src/library/ > >>>>> <https://svn.r-project.org/R/trunk/src/library/> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> For the actual releases of R, you may have to go looking > at > >>>> the > >>>>> >>>> branches inside that repository, e.g., the following > command: > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> svn log \ > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > >>>> > https://svn.r-project.org/R/branches/R-4-1-branch/src/library/stats/man/lm.Rd > >>>> < > >>>> > https://svn.r-project.org/R/branches/R-4-1-branch/src/library/stats/man/lm.Rd > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> ...should tell you the history of ?lm until the latest > >>>>> R-4.1-patched. > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> Do the Git mirrors track these release branches? The > branching > >>>>> model of > >>>>> >>>> Subversion [*] is different from the Git model, so > perhaps > >>>> not. > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> -- > >>>>> >>>> Best regards, > >>>>> >>>> Ivan > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> [*] > >>>>> > https://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.using.html > >>>>> < > https://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.using.html > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> -- > >>>>> >> Sent from my phone. 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