To add another option. In the past when this has happened to me I've found
other packages that provide similar functionality.

I'm assuming that is.square just checks the number of columns == number of
rows? And the others can probably be implemented pretty easily.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:41 AM Ben Staton <stato...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My package uses the MIT license, so would that not meet the compatibility
> requirements?
>
> I will attempt to reach out to the package author - thanks for your help!
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:31 AM Ben Bolker <bbol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >     That all sounds exactly right.
> >    GPL >= 2 allows you to use the material without asking permission as
> > long as your package is compatibly licensed (e.g. also GPL).
> >    Under normal circumstances it would be polite to ask permission, but
> > if the reason for doing this is that the maintainer is unreachable in
> > the first place ...
> >
> >   If you want to try a little harder, it seems quite possible that you
> > can reach the matrixcalc maintainer at the (personal) e-mail address
> > shown in this page:
> >
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10208324530363130&set=ecnf.1000413042
> >
> >    (Possibly an identity confusion, but I rate that as unlikely based on
> > other facebook snooping)
> >
> >    I don't think a short, polite e-mail request would be out of bounds,
> > they can always ignore it or tell you to go away.
> >
> >    cheers
> >     Ben Bolker
> >
> > On 6/2/21 1:15 PM, Ben Staton wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your detailed list of solutions.
> > >
> > > I was initially tempted to go with option 1 (move matrixcalc to
> suggests
> > > and check for its existence before using functions that rely on it),
> but
> > as
> > > mentioned, this is not a long term fix.
> > >
> > > I unfortunately can't take on the responsibilities of option 2
> (becoming
> > > the package maintainer) -- there is much that this package does that I
> do
> > > not understand, and do not wish to feign authority!
> > >
> > > I plan to take option 3 (copy the needed functions into my package).
> > There
> > > are only three functions I need from matrixcalc, and all three are
> fairly
> > > simple (is.square.matrix
> > > <https://rdrr.io/cran/matrixcalc/src/R/is.square.matrix.R>,
> > > is.symmetric.matrix
> > > <https://rdrr.io/cran/matrixcalc/src/R/is.symmetric.matrix.R>, and
> > > is.positive.definite
> > > <https://rdrr.io/cran/matrixcalc/src/R/is.positive.definite.R>) and
> > there
> > > is only one function in postpack that needs them. I plan to define them
> > > within the postpack function. matrixcalc is licensed under GPL >= 2 and
> > > based on my scan of the license text, this is allowed. Is that correct?
> > >
> > > Regarding option 4 (contacting the matrixcalc maintainer), the original
> > > email from CRAN mentioned that they have attempted to contact the
> package
> > > author with no response.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:52 AM J C Nash <profjcn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I just downloaded the source matrixcalc package to see what it
> > contained.
> > >> The functions
> > >> I looked at seem fairly straightforward and the OP could likely
> develop
> > >> equivalent features
> > >> in his own code, possibly avoiding a function call. Avoiding the
> > function
> > >> call means NAMESPACE etc. are not involved, so fewer places for
> getting
> > >> into
> > >> trouble, assuming the inline code works properly.
> > >>
> > >> JN
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 2021-06-02 12:37 p.m., Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> > >>> On 02/06/2021 12:13 p.m., Ben Staton wrote:
> > >>>> Hello,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I received an email notice from CRAN indicating that my R package
> > >>>> ('postpack') will be archived soon if I do not take any action and I
> > >> want
> > >>>> to avoid that outcome. The issue is not caused by my package, but
> > >> instead a
> > >>>> package that my package depends on:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "... package 'matrixcalc' is now scheduled for archival on
> 2021-06-09,
> > >>>> and archiving this will necessitate also archiving its strong
> reverse
> > >>>> dependencies."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Evidently, xyz has been returning errors on new R builds prompting
> > CRAN
> > >> to
> > >>>> list it as a package to be archived. My package, 'postpack' has
> > >>>> 'matrixcalc' listed in the Imports field, which I assume is why I
> > >> received
> > >>>> this email.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I want to keep 'postpack' active and don't want it to be archived. I
> > >> still
> > >>>> need package 'matrixcalc' for my package, but not for most
> functions.
> > >> Could
> > >>>> I simply move package 'matrixcalc' to the Suggests list and submit
> the
> > >> new
> > >>>> version to CRAN to remove the "Strong Reverse Dependency" issue that
> > >>>> triggered this email to avoid CRAN from archiving my package?
> > >>>
> > >>> That's part of one solution, but not the best solution.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you move it to Suggests, you should make sure that your package
> > >> checks for it before every use, and falls back to
> > >>> some other calculation if it is not present.  Be aware that once it
> is
> > >> archived, almost none of your users will have it
> > >>> available, so this is kind of like dropping the functions that it
> > >> supports.
> > >>>
> > >>> Another solution which would be great for the community might be for
> > you
> > >> to offer to take over as maintainer of
> > >>> matrixcalc.  Then you'd fix whatever problems it has, and you
> wouldn't
> > >> need to worry about it.  I haven't looked at the
> > >>> issues so I don't know if this is feasible.
> > >>>
> > >>> A third choice would be for you to copy the functions you need from
> > >> matrixcalc into your own package so you can drop the
> > >>> dependency.  This is generally legal under the licenses that CRAN
> > >> accepts, but you should check anyway.
> > >>>
> > >>> A fourth choice would be for you to contact the matrixcalc
> maintainer,
> > >> and help them to fix the issues so that
> > >>> matrixcalc doesn't get archived.  They may or may not be willing to
> > work
> > >> with you.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd say my third choice is the best choice in the short term, and 2nd
> > or
> > >> 4th would be good long term solutions.
> > >>>
> > >>> Duncan Murdoch
> > >>>
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