Hi 

I got caught by this new test this week in trying to push an updated release of 
the loon package to CRAN.

By following this thread, I corrected my cross-references to external packages 
but I got stymied by 
the one I hoped to give to the  "sp" package for Spatial data

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Here is the history:

I tried 
   \link[sp:sp]{sp}  
which failed here:
Debian: 
<https://win-builder.r-project.org/incoming_pretest/loon_1.3.1_20200616_162128/Debian/00check.log>
 
Status: 1 WARNING


That was meant to correct an earlier attempt (it did for other links to 
"scales" for example) where I had tried 
  \link[sp]{sp}   
and  failed here: 
Debian: 
<https://win-builder.r-project.org/incoming_pretest/loon_1.3.1_20200615_213749/Debian/00check.log>
 
Status: 1 WARNING


So to complete the possibilities as I understand them,  I just now tried 
   \link{sp}  
which, as might be expected, failed here:
Debian: 
<https://win-builder.r-project.org/incoming_pretest/loon_1.3.1_20200616_213921/Debian/00check.log>
Status: 1 WARNING
As expected, error here was different:  "Missing  link"  as opposed to 
"Non-file package-anchored link"

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I am not sure whether I have missed a subtlety in WRE or that the peculiar 
circumstance
where the package, the topic, and the file name are all identical (sp) is some 
weird boundary case.

Without further advice, I think I am just going to remove the link to "sp".
It really is just a courtesy link to the package description for "sp".

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: R-package-devel <r-package-devel-boun...@r-project.org> on behalf of 
Georgi Boshnakov <georgi.boshna...@manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 9:27 AM
To: Gábor Csárdi <csardi.ga...@gmail.com>, Duncan Murdoch 
<murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>
Cc: List r-package-devel <r-package-devel@r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] check cross-references error: Non-file 
package-anchored link(s)

    I think that the current behaviour is documented in WRE:
    
    "...There are two other forms of optional argument specified as 
\link[pkg]{foo} and
    \link[pkg:bar]{foo} to link to the package pkg, to files foo.html and 
bar.html respectively.
    These are rarely needed, perhaps to refer to not-yet-installed packages 
(but there the HTML
    help system will resolve the link at run time) or in the normally 
undesirable event that more
    than one package offers help on a topic7 (in which case the present package 
has precedence so
    this is only needed to refer to other packages). They are currently only 
used in HTML help
    (and ignored for hyperlinks in LATEX conversions of help pages), and link 
to the file rather
    than the topic (since there is no way to know which topics are in which 
files in an uninstalled
    package) ...   Because they have been frequently misused, the HTML help 
system looks for topic foo in package pkg 
    if it does not find file foo.html."
    
    Unless I am missing something, it seems that it would be relatively 
painless to reverse the logic of the current behaviour of the help system,
    i.e. to start looking first for the topic and then for a file.
    
    Georgi Boshnakov
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: R-package-devel <r-package-devel-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of 
Gábor Csárdi
    Sent: 16 June 2020 13:44
    To: Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>
    Cc: List r-package-devel <r-package-devel@r-project.org>
    Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] check cross-references error: Non-file 
package-anchored link(s)
    
    On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:30 PM Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
    >
    > On 15/06/2020 12:05 p.m., Martin Maechler wrote:
    > >>>>>> Duncan Murdoch   on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:28:03 -0400 writes:
    > >
    > >      > I agree with almost everything you wrote, except one thing:  
this isn't
    > >      > newly enforced, it has been enforced since the help system 
began.  What
    > >      > I think is new is that there are now tests for it.  Previously 
those
    > >      > links just wouldn't work.
    > >
    > >      > Duncan Murdoch
    > >
    > > Yes, to all... including Duncan's agreement with Gábor.
    > >
    > > Also, Duncan M earlier did mention that he had wanted to
    > > *change* the link-to-file behavior for these cases (when he wrote 
    > > most of the Rd2html source code) but somehow did not get it.
    >
    > Actually, I don't think I pushed for this change at the time (or at 
    > least I didn't push much).  I just wish now that I had, because I 
    > think it will be harder to do it now than it would have been then.
    >
    > Duncan
    
    I am not entirely sure, but maybe just documenting the current behaviour 
and undoing 78674 could work. With some tweaks? E.g.
    
    * updating R-exts to say that \link[pkg:topic]{text} will link to 
`topic.html` in `pkg` first (for historical reasons), and falls back to 
searching for `topic` in `pkg` at render time.
    * updating Rd2HTML to look for the topic and use it in the link, instead of 
throwing a warning, in it cannot find `topic.html`
    * removing the `R CMD check` warning for non-file links, that was added in 
78674 :)
    
    Is there anything else?
    
    Gabor
    
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