Dialogue is not always getting what you demand in one step. One form dialogue with CRAN is re-submitting with CRAN-correspondence stating what one wants.
Also, for a lot of applications being able to turn off messages is critical. > Sorry first sentence should read > > I agree that `message()` is ideally preferred, precisely because > of the reasons Martin stated, it is easily controlled by the user. > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:41 AM Jim Hester <james.f.hester using gmail.com > <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel>> wrote: > > > > I agree that `message()` is in an ideally preferred, precisely because > > of the reasons Martin stated, it is easily controlled by the user. > > > > Unfortunately, in the real world, the windows R gui console and > > RStudio (which copied behavior) color messages, and anything on stderr > > in fact, in red, which confuses most users who are trained to treat > > messages in red as errors. > > > > This also makes using colored output (where available) more > > challenging when using `message()`. You either have to accept the > > text as red, or unconditionally change the text color to black or > > similar, which can then be unreadable if the user is using a dark > > color theme. > > > > Jenny is an experienced package developer. She knew this tradeoff and > > the use of `cat()` in gargle was deliberate choice in an imperfect > > world. She did not make this decision out of ignorance of a better > > way. > > > > However there is no way for Jenny or any other package developers to > > have a dialog during a CRAN submission, the communication is only in > > one direction, if she resubmits explaining her rationale for the > > choice she may not even have the same reviewer the next time. > > > > Bioconductor seems to have a much better review process for > > submissions, with real dialog between the reviewer and package author, > > perhaps CRAN can learn from that process and improve the submission > > experience in the future. > > > > Jim --------------- John Mount http://www.win-vector.com/ <http://www.win-vector.com/> Our book: Practical Data Science with R https://www.manning.com/books/practical-data-science-with-r-second-edition <http://www.manning.com/zumel/> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel
