>>>>> Hadley Wickham >>>>> on Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:22:47 -0600 writes:
> Hi all, > I'd love to get some clarification on what the new internet policy > means for packages like httr: >> Packages which use Internet resources should fail gracefully with an informative >> message if the resource is not available (and not give a check warning nor error). > It's not clear what "internet resource" means here? If it means > dataset, then I think the httr tests and examples are ok. If it means > any use of the internet, I'm not sure what do - httr critically > depends on internet access, so I can't see any way to make it fail > gracefully. > Hadley I cannot answer your question, notably as I'm not part of the CRAN team, but as R Core developer, I've encountered the problem many times which this policy tries to mitigate (but I also think we should consider to go further than the above "policy") : As R developer, I'd like to see the effect of a change to the sources of base R, and so eventually, I may want to run the equivalent of 'R CMD check' on all existing CRAN and Bioconductor packages. If I have access to a server with many cores and very fast hard disks, I can hope to finish running the tests with 1--2 days. But then I have to deal with the result. The few times I've done this, the result has been "a mess" because many many packages nowadays assume in their examples and their regression/unit tests that internet access to some resources works, ... which it "often" does not, and so download.file(), read.table("http://.....") etc result in errors sooner or later. Because of that some packages fail their checks "randomly" (in the sense that internet resources are not available "randomly"). Ideally we'd find a very good way that these failures are communicated back to the person / process running (a version of) 'R CMD check', because in the above scenario, I'd like to weed out the 300 packages that just failed because of internet resource access failures, and only look at the other packages that got a change in their 'R CMD check' results. The recent introduction in R-devel of classed error conditions (in some cases), e.g., https://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel/NEWS/2018/10/04#n2018-10-04, and the similar and somewhat earlier effort of Lionel Henry to use classed error conditions (in rlang only, unfortunately, rather than as a patch proposal to R ..) maybe one step towards a nice solution here. Ideally we'd not just get 'ERROR' in the check 'Status:' line, but qualified errors, and if for a package the only errors are caused by internet resource access failures, I could easily filter them out. Martin ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel