Here's one difference: atib <- tibble(a = 1:5, b = letters[5:1]) atib[3,"a"] as.data.frame(atib)[3,"a"]
The second line returns a tibble (no dropping dimensions), the third line does (dropping dimensions). Huge difference if you use [ , aColumn] to select a vector from a data frame. Cheers Joris On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards <s...@iysik.com > wrote: > Hi Göran, > > Could you please elaborate on which kind of subsetting that Hadley > dislikes? > I am yet to encounter operations on data frames that are not possible on > tribbles. > > Kindly, > Stefan McKinnon Hoj-Edwards > > Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards > ph.d. Genetics > +44 (0)776 231 2464 > +45 2888 6598 > Skype: stefan_edwards > > 2017-09-26 8:30 GMT+01:00 Göran Broström <goran.brost...@umu.se>: > > > I am beginning to get complaints from users of my CRAN packages > > (especially 'eha') to the effect that they get error messages like > "Error: > > Unsupported use of matrix or array for column indexing". > > > > It turns out that they are sticking in tibbles into functions that expect > > data frames as input. And I am using the kind of subsetting that Hadley > > dislikes (eha is an old package, much older than tibbles). It is of > course > > a simple matter to change the code so it handles both data frames and > > tibbles correctly, but this affects many functions, and it will take some > > time. And when the next guy introduces 'troubles' as an improvement of > > 'tibbles', I will have to rewrite the code again. > > > > While I like Hadley's way of doing it, I think it is a mistake to let a > > tibble also be of class data frame. To me it is a matter of inheritance > and > > backwards compability: A tibble should add nice things to a data frame, > not > > change basic behaviour, in order to call itself a data frame. > > > > Is it correct to let a tibble be of class "data.frame"? > > > > Göran Broström > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel > -- Joris Meys Statistical consultant Ghent University Faculty of Bioscience Engineering Department of Mathematical Modelling, Statistics and Bio-Informatics tel : +32 9 264 59 87 joris.m...@ugent.be ------------------------------- Disclaimer : http://helpdesk.ugent.be/e-maildisclaimer.php [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-package-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-package-devel