Many thanks to both David and Ista. I think that my question regarding 
extracting items returned from  lmer points out a weakness of R, viz. less than 
perfect documentation. I know that R is written by volunteers, all of whom I 
cherish, yet having to ask the listserve for a question as basic as how to 
extract items from a function is an unfortunate happenstance, especially after 
one spends time reading the man page for the function. The man page should 
explain how to extract pertinent information! There is even a prior standard, 
i.e. use names(), get the names of the returned objects than access an item 
using $item notation, e.g. fit1$coefficients for lm. Does anyone know whom can 
be asked to moify the man page? Can the maintainer of lmer modify the function 
so it follows previous standards? I ask these questions in the spirit of 
improving R.
John




John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
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(Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing)>>> Ista 
Zahn <istaz...@gmail.com> 5/3/2010 10:26 AM >>>
Hi John,
David's advice is probably sufficient, but I thought I would just add
the following example, showing how to find out what extractor
functions have been defined for a particular s4 class:

class(fm2) #find out the class of fm2 ("mer")
showMethods(classes="mer") # find out what methods are defined for
objects of class "mer". Notice that one of the defined methods is
"coef". Notice also that methods "fixef" and "ranef" are also defined.

fixef(fm2) #extract fixed effect coefficients
ranef(fm2) #extract random effects coefficients

coef(fm2) #extract "coefficients" (sum of fixed and random effects).

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:16 AM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2010, at 9:41 AM, John Sorkin wrote:
>
>> R 2.10.0
>> windows XP
>>
>> I am trying to get the coefficients returned from lmer. Normally I would
>> use the names function to get the objects returned by the function. This
>> does not work in lmer, but it does for lm:
>
> When you read the help page for lmer it refers your to the description of
> "mer"-class where that help page tells you that it is an S4 object and
> offers a wide variety of extractor method functions, including a coef
> function. The str function would have shown you the slot names, but at your
> level of knowledge, it would probably be safer to work with the
> extractor/accessor functions. (I speak from sad experience. The authors of
> that package know a lot more than either of us.)
>
> --
> David.
>>
>> <- lmer(Reaction ~ Days + (1|Subject) + (0+Days|Subject), sleepstudy)
>>>
>>> names(fm2)
>>
>> NULL
>>
>>> fitlm <- lm(Reaction ~ Days, sleepstudy)
>>> names(fitlm)
>>
>> [1] "coefficients"  "residuals"     "effects"       "rank"
>> [5] "fitted.values" "assign"        "qr"            "df.residual"
>> [9] "xlevels"       "call"          "terms"         "model"
>>
>> How does one know what is returned by lmer, and how does one access the
>> various parts? I looked at the code for lmer, but at least on my level of R
>> sophistication, the nature of the data returned in not clear.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>> John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
>> Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics
>> University of Maryland School of Medicine Division of Gerontology
>> Baltimore VA Medical Center
>> 10 North Greene Street
>> GRECC (BT/18/GR)
>> Baltimore, MD 21201-1524
>> (Phone) 410-605-7119
>> (Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing)
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