Frank, I can't see the code you mention - Web marshall at work - but I don't think you should be too quick to run down SAS - it's a powerful and flexible language but unfortunately very expensive.
Your example mentions doing a vector product in the macro language - this only suggest to me that those people writing the code need a crash course in SAS/IML (the matrix language). SAS is designed to work on records and so is inapproprorriate for matrices - macros are only an efficient code copying device. Doing matrix computations in this way is pretty mad and the code would be impossible never mind the memory problems. SAS recognise that but a lot of SAS users remain familiar with IML. In IML by contrast there are inner, cross and outer products and a raft of other useful methods for matrix work that R users would be familiar with. OLS for example is one line: b = solve(X`X, X`y) ; rss = sqrt(ssq(y - Xb)) ; And to give you a flavour of IML's capabilities I implemented a SAS version of the MARS program in it about 6 or 7 years ago. BTW SPSS also has a matrix language. Gerard Frank E Harrell Jr <f.harr...@vander To bilt.edu> R list <r-h...@stat.math.ethz.ch> Sent by: cc r-help-boun...@r- project.org Subject [R] Inefficiency of SAS Programming 26/02/2009 22:57 If anyone wants to see a prime example of how inefficient it is to program in SAS, take a look at the SAS programs provided by the US Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality for risk adjusting and reporting for hospital outcomes at http://www.qualityindicators.ahrq.gov/software.htm . The PSSASP3.SAS program is a prime example. Look at how you do a vector product in the SAS macro language to evaluate predictions from a logistic regression model. I estimate that using R would easily cut the programming time of this set of programs by a factor of 4. Frank -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ********************************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. It is the policy of the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform and the Agencies and Offices using its IT services to disallow the sending of offensive material. Should you consider that the material contained in this message is offensive you should contact the sender immediately and also mailminder[at]justice.ie. Is le haghaidh an duine nó an eintitis ar a bhfuil sí dírithe, agus le haghaidh an duine nó an eintitis sin amháin, a bheartaítear an fhaisnéis a tarchuireadh agus féadfaidh sé go bhfuil ábhar faoi rún agus/nó faoi phribhléid inti. Toirmisctear aon athbhreithniú, atarchur nó leathadh a dhéanamh ar an bhfaisnéis seo, aon úsáid eile a bhaint aisti nó aon ghníomh a dhéanamh ar a hiontaoibh, ag daoine nó ag eintitis seachas an faighteoir beartaithe. Má fuair tú é seo trí dhearmad, téigh i dteagmháil leis an seoltóir, le do thoil, agus scrios an t-ábhar as aon ríomhaire. Is é beartas na Roinne Dlí agus Cirt, Comhionannais agus Athchóirithe Dlí, agus na nOifígí agus na nGníomhaireachtaí a úsáideann seirbhísí TF na Roinne, seoladh ábhair cholúil a dhícheadú. Más rud é go measann tú gur ábhar colúil atá san ábhar atá sa teachtaireacht seo is ceart duit dul i dteagmháil leis an seoltóir láithreach agus le mailminder[ag]justice.ie chomh maith. *********************************************************************************** ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.