Could you explain how memory problems may arise? I understand that by
using model=FALSE, we can reduce the memory required. But if we did
not, what kinds of problems may arise. I have run into a possible
memory leak that I have not been able to work around (using yags, not
lm). I am trying to gain insight into this problem. Thanks, Juliet

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Without arguing you case I would point out that the data need not be there in 
> l$model:
>
>> l <- lm(y ~ x, data=ex, model = FALSE)
>> l
>
> Call:
> lm(formula = y ~ x, data = ex, model = FALSE)
>
> Coefficients:
> (Intercept)            x
>     0.1310      -0.1736
>
>> l$model
> NULL
>
> Model objects are often huge simply because by default they squirrel away a 
> copy of the original data inside themselves.  One way to avoid memory 
> problems can be only to keep this backup copy within the fitted model object 
> only when you really need to do so, which is not all that often, in fact.
>
> I can see why step() (and allies) do not work the way you think they should.  
> These functions use the call component of the fitted model object and modify 
> that.  And if the call component says your data are in the data frame 'ex', 
> they take you seriously.  They your word for it.  We're not dealing with 
> Microsoft software here, you know.
>
> Bill Venables
> http://www.cmis.csiro.au/bill.venables/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Adam D. I. Kramer
> Sent: Sunday, 15 February 2009 12:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [R] Issue with step(): Fails to look for object$model
>
> Hi,
>
>        I'm playing around with stepwise regression, using the step
> function, and believe I have found a bug (or at least, a strong case for
> improvement):
>
>> ex <- data.frame(y=rnorm(100),x=rnorm(100))
>> l <- lm(y ~ x, data=ex)
>> step(l)
> [output is correct]
>> rm(ex)
>> step(l)
> Start:  AIC=11.79
> y ~ x
>
>        Df Sum of Sq     RSS     AIC
> - x     1     0.120 108.221   9.900
> <none>              108.100  11.789
> Error in inherits(x, "data.frame") : object "ex" not found
>
> ...ex is not found, so step fails. However, all of the necessary data to run
> the step function is present in l$model.
>
> I would also argue that step() *should* use l$model if at all possible, as
> it seems reasonable to expect that ex may undergo changes. Further, step()
> does not appear to test any other columns present in ex (even if
> direction="both" is specified), unless they are specified in scope.
>
> If I am misunderstanding step() or if there is a good reason why it operates
> this way, please let me know!
>
> --Adam
>
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