I see, I was afraid for an answer along these lines as my problem now  
turns into a stat problem (-;
Any suggestions on how to analyze such data as given below with  
weights AND at the same time
taking into account that there are repeated measurements?

Best, Ingmar

On 17 Dec 2008, at 11:02, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

> Weights are not supported: multistratum aov is designed for  
> balanced designs and uses projection for which weighting is  
> inappropriate.
>
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Ingmar Visser wrote:
>
>> Dear R-help,
>>
>> I'm facing a problem with defining a repeated measures anova with
>> weighted data.
>> Here's the code to reproduce the problem:
>>
>> # generate some data
>> seed=11
>> rtrep <- data.frame(rt=rnorm(100),ti=rep(1:5,20),subj=gl
>> (20,5,100),we=runif(100))
>>
>> # model with within factor for subjects/repeated measurements, no
>> problem
>> aov(rt~ti + Error(subj/ti),data=rtrep)
>>
>> #model with weights and subj as between factor, ie ignoring repeated
>> measures,
>> #again, no problem
>> aov(rt~ti+subj,data=rtrep,weights=we)
>>
>> #combination of above two: repeated measures AND weights
>> aov(rt~ti + Error(subj/ti),data=rtrep,weights=we)
>>
>> The latter model gives an error (see report below), but only after
>> fitting it, ie the error is produced by the
>> print and summary methods of the aov objects.
>>
>> Any guidance is appreciated, best, Ingmar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Error produced in printing the fitted aov object:
>>
>> Call:
>> aov(formula = rt ~ ti + Error(subj/ti), data = rtrep, weights = we)
>> Note: The results below are on the weighted scale
>>
>> Grand Mean: 0.112081
>>
>> Stratum 1: subj
>>
>> Terms:
>>                        ti Residuals
>> Sum of Squares   2.002826 10.869940
>> Deg. of Freedom         1        18
>>
>> Residual standard error: 0.7771007
>> Estimated effects are balanced
>>
>> Stratum 2: subj:ti
>>
>> Terms:
>>                       ti Residuals
>> Sum of Squares  0.382535  5.540047
>> Deg. of Freedom        1        19
>>
>> Residual standard error: 0.5399828
>> Estimated effects are balanced
>>
>> Stratum 3: Within
>> Error in print.aov(xi, ...) :
>>   dims [product 60] do not match the length of object [100]
>> In addition: Warning message:
>> In resid * wt^0.5 :
>>   longer object length is not a multiple of shorter object length
>>
>>
>> Ingmar Visser
>> Department of Psychology, University of Amsterdam
>> Roetersstraat 15
>> 1018 WB Amsterdam
>> The Netherlands
>> t: +31-20-5256723
>>
>>
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Ingmar Visser
Department of Psychology, University of Amsterdam
Roetersstraat 15
1018 WB Amsterdam
The Netherlands
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