Professor Ripley,
My apologies for not clarifying the timezone - I am in California (PDT
-> PST). I did review various help pages and I am still unclear on
the explanation.
I replicated your code:
> as.POSIXct("2008-11-02 01:17:00")
[1] "2008-11-02 01:17:00 PST"
> as.POSIXct("2008-11-02 01:17:00") + 3600
[1] "2008-11-02 02:17:00 PST"
Your second command yielded 1:17; mine yielded 2:17.
On my OS X machine (R 2.8.0):
> Sys.timezone()
[1] ""
i.e., Sys.timezone returns an empty string.
So, the question remains: is this an OS issue or an R issue (i.e., my
"difftime" commands below appear to show that DST takes effect as
1:16, not 1:100)?
Dennis
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On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Dennis Fisher wrote:
Colleagues,
I submitted this several days ago and no one responded, so I am
trying
again, trying a different subject line:
Well, you posted something that indicated you had not studied the
relevant help pages, without the information requested in the R
posting guide, and with an HTML posting.
I just encountered some unexpected behavior of difftime in
relationship to the change from daylight savings to standard time.
My understanding is that DST and ST take effect at 2AM. However, the
results below suggests that R (version 2.8.0 in OS X) implements the
change at 2:16AM:
The transition time depends on the country (and in some cases, the
year).
In the EU it is at 2am (and always has been, not that the EU is very
old).
Expected:
difftime("2008-11-02 02:01:00", "2008-11-02 00:59:00")
Time difference of 2.033333 hours
difftime("2008-11-02 01:16:00", "2008-11-02 01:15:00")
Time difference of 1 mins
difftime("2008-11-02 01:18:00", "2008-11-02 01:17:00")
Time difference of 1 mins
Not expected:
difftime("2008-11-02 01:17:00", "2008-11-02 01:16:00")
Time difference of 1.016667 hours
Can anyone explain this?
Yes, and you should have been able to do so from the information in
the help pages. As ?strptime says
Remember that in most timezones some times do not occur and some
occur twice because of transitions to/from summer time. What
happens in those cases is OS-specific.
See also the note on ?Sys.timezone. No OS I tried did this, not
even Mac OS X set to EST5EDT. But in EST5EDT 2008-11-02 01:17:00
occurred twice:
as.POSIXct("2008-11-02 01:17:00")
[1] "2008-11-02 01:17:00 EDT"
as.POSIXct("2008-11-02 01:17:00") + 3600
[1] "2008-11-02 01:17:00 EST"
so 1.016667 hours would be one of two correct answers in that
timezone.
However, you didn't tell us what timezone you are in and hence we
cannot know when DST transitions occur in that timezone.
Dennis
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