On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:08 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you for all of you. Intuitively, 7 is an integer for people who live
> in this planet. It is just very difficult for me to believe that R does not
> think 7 is an integer but 7L is.
>>
>> is.integer(7) # R 2.7.2
>
> [1] FALSE
> Thus, based on Martin's comments, I try it again on the S-PLUS 8.0 and it
> shows
>>
>> is.integer(7) # S-PLUS 8.0
>
> [1] T
>
> Hopefully, someday and someone will fix it therefore, R users don't need to
> use as.integer(7) to tell R that 7 is an integer.
My father taught me at an early age not to criticize the way that
someone else does something until after you have shown that you can do
it better. The fact that you don't agree with a design decision
doesn't mean that it is wrong and should be "fixed".
We look forward to using the system for computing with data that you
will develop and make freely available and in which 7 will be stored
as an integer. In the meantime, if you want to use R then you will
just need to grit your teeth and accept that literal constants like
'7' are stored as floating point values and literal constant like '7L'
are stored as integers.
> Quoting Martin Maechler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>>>>>> "KJ" == Keith Jewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> on Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:46:08 +0100 writes:
>>
>> KJ> "7" is an integer, but it's also a real.
>> KJ> In R '?is' and '?is.integer' are clear that you're testing the
>> class(es) of
>> KJ> objects, not their values.
>> KJ> I can't comment on the relationship with "S Programming"
>>
>> I can:
>>
>> In S, and S-plus upto version 3.4,
>> numeric constants such as '7' where "double" as they are in R.
>>
>> Then in S-plus 5.1, they became "integer",
>> and there were tools so users could change all(!!) their S
>> scripts to use '7.' instead of '7' in all places where numeric
>> constants were seen, in order to keep behavior back compatible.
>>
>> R never made such a step (backwards ;-), and never will,
>> notably since in R we had introduced the explicit long (= long
>> integer) constants, using the 'L' suffix,
>> i.e., 7L is "integer"
>> 7 is "double"
>>
>> Note however that for both, is.numeric(.) is fulfilled and
>> class(.) and mode(.) return "numeric".
>> Only typeof(.), storage.mode(.) or str(.)
>> (or functions building on these) tell you the difference.
>>
>> Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich and R core team
>>
>> [And, yes, if you think further and are wondering:
>> If we'd design things from scratch, we would only have S4
>> classes and "double" would be a proper class and
>> "numeric" would be the class union of {"integer", "double"}
>> ]
>>
>>
>> KJ> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> KJ> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> This is really bothering me! In the Dr. Venables and Dr. Ripley's
>> book "S
>> >> Programming" Page 105
>> >> shows that
>> >>> c(is(10,"integer"),is(10.5,"integer"))
>> >> [1] T F
>> >>
>> >> But I try this in R 2.7.2 it shows
>> >>> c(is(10,"integer"),is(10.5,"integer"))
>> >> [1] FALSE FALSE
>> >> Does anyone know what is going on here?
>> >>
>> >> Appreciate,
>> >> Chunhao
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Yihui Xie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes, everyone will agree "7" is an integer, but I don't think
>> >>> computers will agree too :-) R thinks it's a double-precision
>> number,
>> >>> except when you explicitly specify it as an integer (say,
>> >>> as.integer()).
>> >>>
>> >>>> class(7)
>> >>> [1] "numeric"
>> >>>
>> >>>> is.double(7)
>> >>> [1] TRUE
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Yihui
>> >>> --
>> >>> Yihui Xie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> Phone: +86-(0)10-82509086 Fax: +86-(0)10-82509086
>> >>> Mobile: +86-15810805877
>> >>> Homepage: http://www.yihui.name
>> >>> School of Statistics, Room 1037, Mingde Main Building,
>> >>> Renmin University of China, Beijing, 100872, China
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:40 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi R users
>> >>>> Is there anything wrong in "is" function? (R 2.7.2)
>> >>>> I believe that everyone will agree that "7" is an integer, right?
>> but
>> >>>> why R
>> >>>> shows 7 is not an integer
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> is.integer(7)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [1] FALSE
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> is(7,"integer")
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [1] FALSE
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> is(as.integer(7), "integer")
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [1] TRUE
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you very much in advance
>> >>>> Chunhao
>>
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