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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: r-help@r-project.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:29:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [R] Help with hazard plots 

Hello.  I am hoping someone will be willing to help me understand something 
about hazard plots created with muhaz(...).  I have some background in 
statistics (minor in grad school), but I haven't been able to figure one thing 
about hazard plots.  I am using hazard plots to track customer cancellations. 
 I figure I can treat a cancellation as a "death", and if someone is still a 
customer today, they're right censored.  I know that a hazard plot shows the 
probability that someone will cancel in month  n  given that they're a 
customer in month n-1 . 


If a customer signs up on January 1st and cancels on January 2nd, we've had 
what I thought was an intellectual but pointless debate about whether we count 
that as being a customer for 1 month or 0 months.  I thought the two plots 
would be identical, except for a different X axis. 


However, when I create the two plots, they are very different ... very, very 
different.  I've posted the two plots to Flickr: 


http://flickr.com/photos/alancox/2720915878/in/photostream/ shows the plot 
where the lifetime of a customer who signs up on Jan 1 and cancels on Jan 2 is 
0. 

http://flickr.com/photos/alancox/2720915904/in/photostream/ shows the plot 
where the lifetime of a customer who signs up on Jan 1 and cancels on Jan 2 is 
1. 

My question is: Why are these two so different?  How do I know which is right? 

The call that I'm making to produce the model is: 

hazardV08 <- muhaz(nmc,s,max.time=max(nmc)) 


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