>>>>> Arnaud FELD
>>>>> on Tue, 9 Nov 2021 23:03:40 +0100 writes:
> Thanks for your answer. That is helpful even if that is disappointing
> for me ;) I can see now that, as R (base and recommended packages) has
> had contributions from a lot of people, it's not like a package, you
> just can't have a punctual "okay do what you want". I'll have to stick
> with a slow window call, I guess.
> I was right to ask anyway, and thanks for your advices.
Rather you should think long and hard if and why you really
really want to stick with a non-GPL licence for you package.
That is the real problem and a shame in my eyes!
R would almost surely never have grown big if the original authors,
Ross Ihaka and Robert Gentleman hadn't decided to adopt the GNU Public
Licence (GPL) very early ... and Ross & Robert said it was to a
large extent because I had insisted that this was important and
would potentially bring quite a few highly qualified people (all
from academia at the time) to adopt and contribute to R.
So, *not* using GPL for your package feels slightly as a slap
in the face of all the people who made R what it is today.
and just for those it is not obvious:
You *could* easily copy part of R code into your package if
you switched to use GPL -- of course still attributing these
parts a copyrighted by the R Core team.
Quite a few package maintainers have done so, e.g.,
testthat, actuar, pryr, vetr, DPQ, round, ... {I count about 80
CRAN packages}
Martin
--
Martin Maechler
ETH Zurich and R Core team
> Le mar. 9 nov. 2021 à 22:51, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
>>
>> On 09/11/2021 3:52 p.m., Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>> > I understand that, but the reason he gives for copying code from the
stats package is to change the license. That decision seems like something that
requires a very direct communication with/permission from the maintainer.
>>
>> The stats package doesn't give a valid maintainer() address. It gives a
>> vague reference to the r-project.org website, but that website doesn't
>> give a contact address.
>>
>> In fact, the authorship of R is very widely distributed among at least
>> dozens of contributors. Identifying and contacting them all would be a
>> nightmare but probably isn't necessary. However, identifying and
>> contacting the necessary ones (the ones who hold copyright on the parts
>> he wants to copy) would be very difficult. Not contacting the relevant
>> ones would mean Arnaud's work would be potentially in violation of their
>> copyright.
>>
>> Even if he did manage to contact all the copyright holders, some of them
>> would probably not agree to more permissive licenses. For example, I am
>> a copyright holder on some parts of the source, and I wouldn't agree to
>> relicensing.
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On November 9, 2021 12:21:18 PM PST, Duncan Murdoch
<murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 09/11/2021 2:45 p.m., Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>> >>> This question isn't a "how to do package development" question...
this is about a specific package so you should send email to the package
developer identified by the maintainer() function.
>> >>
>> >> I think Arnaud is the package developer; his question is whether he
can
>> >> copy R source into his package.
>> >>
>> >> Duncan Murdoch
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't foresee this request finding a positive response from R
Core, but email seems the most correct approach.
>> >>>
>> >>> On November 9, 2021 11:34:12 AM PST, Bert Gunter
<bgunter.4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Questions about package development should be posted to
>> >>>> R-package-devel (**not R-devel**).
>> >>>> See https://www.r-project.org/mail.html for details.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (I am not sure that they get into legal weeds there, but it seems
like
>> >>>> the right place to try).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bert Gunter
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming
along
>> >>>> and sticking things into it."
>> >>>> -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip )
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:17 AM Arnaud FELD
<arnaud.feldm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I use that mailing list because I’ve tried to send a message to the
>> >>>>> r-core address and received :
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> "Non-members are typically *NOT* allowed to post messages to this
>> >>>>>> private developers' list. Please use an appropriate mailing list
(from
>> >>>>>> http://www.r-project.org/mail.html). For R packages, use
>> >>>>>> maintainer("<pkg>") in R (and if that is R-core@.., use the R-help
>> >>>>>> address).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I would like to borrow most of the code of stats :: window
within my
>> >>>>> package disaggR, which has an uncompatible license as it is MIT not
>> >>>>> GPL2. window has some extra overhead because of the calling of
time()
>> >>>>> at the beginning of the function (that is only used for extend =
>> >>>>> FALSE). Copying the function and modifying it would allow me a bit
of
>> >>>>> optimization, but I need some agreement as my package is MIT.
>> >>>>> Is it possible ?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Arnaud FELDMANN
>> >>>>>
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