Hi, Many thanks for your responses.
Le samedi 6 novembre 2021, 08:39:22 UTC+1, Rui Barradas <ruipbarra...@sapo.pt> a écrit : Hello, Às 01:36 de 06/11/21, David Winsemius escreveu: > > On 11/5/21 1:16 PM, varin sacha via R-help wrote: >> Dear R-experts, >> >> Here is a toy example. How can I get the bootstrap confidence >> intervals working ? >> >> Many thanks for your help >> >> ############################ >> library(DescTools) >> library(boot) >> A=c(488,437,500,449,364) >> dat<-data.frame(A) >> med<-function(d,i) { >> temp<-d[i,] > # shouldn't this be > > HodgesLehmann(temp) # ??? > > # makes no sense to extract a bootstrap sample and then return a value > calculated on the full dataset > >> HodgesLehmann(A) >> } >> boot.out<-boot(data=dat,statistic=med,R=100) > > I would have imagined that one could simply extract the quantiles of the > HodgesLehmann at the appropriate tail probabilities: > > > quantile(boot.out$t, c(0.025, 0.975)) > 2.5% 97.5% > 400.5000 488.0001 > > > It doesn't seem reasonable to have bootstrap CI's that are much tighter > than the estimates on the original data: > > > > HodgesLehmann(boot.out$t, conf.level=0.95) > est lwr.ci upr.ci > 449.75 444.25 453.25 # seems to be cheating > > HodgesLehmann(dat$A, conf.level=0.95) > est lwr.ci upr.ci > 449 364 500 # Much closer to the quantiles above > > This cheating comes from wilcox.test, which is called by HodgesLehman to do the calculations. Below is a function calling wilcox.test directly, and the bootstrapped intervals are always equal, no matter what way they are computed. A <- c(488, 437, 500, 449, 364) dat <- data.frame(A) med <- function(d,i) { temp <- d[i, ] HodgesLehmann(temp) } med2 <- function(d, i, conf.level = 0.95){ temp <- d[i, ] wilcox.test(temp, conf.int = TRUE, conf.level = Coalesce(conf.level, 0.8), exact = FALSE)$estimate } set.seed(2021) boot.out <- boot(data = dat, statistic = med, R = 100) set.seed(2021) boot.out2 <- boot(data = dat, statistic = med2, R = 100, conf.level = 0.95) HodgesLehmann(boot.out$t) #[1] 452.75 HodgesLehmann(boot.out2$t) #[1] 452.75 HodgesLehmann(boot.out$t, conf.level = 0.95) # est lwr.ci upr.ci #452.7500 447.2500 458.7499 HodgesLehmann(boot.out2$t, conf.level = 0.95) # est lwr.ci upr.ci #452.7500 447.2500 458.7499 quantile(boot.out$t, c(0.025, 0.975)) # 2.5% 97.5% #400.5 494.0 quantile(boot.out2$t, c(0.025, 0.975)) # 2.5% 97.5% #400.5 494.0 boot.ci(boot.out, type = "all") # CI's are boot.ci(boot.out2, type = "all") # the same But the bootstrap statistic vectors t are different: identical(boot.out$t, boot.out2$t) #[1] FALSE all.equal(boot.out$t, boot.out2$t) #[1] "Mean relative difference: 8.93281e-08" I haven't time to check what is going on in wilcox.test, its source is a bit involved, with many if/else statements, maybe I'll come back to this but no promises made. Hope this helps, Rui Barradas ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.