Dear R project,

I am a doctoral student in Zhejiang university in China, I am using lme 
function in nlme package and learning the function by Package 'nlme' document. 
I am writing this email for some help to build a lme model.

My goal was to include two non-nested random effects in the lme model. the 
document described how to write the random effects while I found it difficult 
for me to understand. My problem are as below:




In these model, site and year were considered as non nested effects. I want to 
set the structure in lme model the same as lmer model(the 1st model below), and 
I used the structure "random=list(site=~1,year=~1)"(the 2nd model below) . 
According to the result, the  lme model was obviously wrong, for the R2 and AIC 
were different from that of lmer model. I want to know to get the same result 
as lmer model, how should I set the random argument?

Below is the model and results in R,




################################################################1. lmer function
lmer<-lmer(data, y~x1+x2+x3+(1|site)+(1|year))             
r2(lmer)##58.8%;29.7%
r.squaredGLMM(lmer)##58.8%; 29.72%;AIC=462.4
###################################################################2. lme1
lme1<-lme(data, y~x1+x2+x3,random = list(site=~1,year=~1))              
r2(lme1)## NA(can't get the result)
r.squaredGLMM(lme1)##92.4%; 30.89%;AIC=533




I will be appreciated for your help.




Yours sincerely,

Juan Liu

Juan Liu

PhD candidate

College of Life Sciences, Zhejiang University

866 Yuhangtang Road, Hangzhou

Zhejiang 310058, P.R.China

21707...@zju.edu.cn; liujuan_1...@outlook.com



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