Hi David Thank you for the information
I accidentally deleted my reply coming in from Rhelp and I have not had a look at at the list to see what happened. I thought that I had set everything up correctly when I had to switch to my new ISP and use MS Outlook for my email. 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12070L, 11221L, 11338L, 10761L, 11012L, 10923L, 10790L, 11427L, 10788L, 11772L, 12104L, 12634L, 12772L, 11764L, 11956L, 11646L, 11750L, 11485L, 11198L, 12265L, 11704L, 12419L, 13259L, 13945L, 13839L, 12387L, 12546L, 12038L, 11977L, 12336L, 11793L, 12877L, 11923L, 13306L, 13988L, 14002L, 14338L, 12867L, 12761L, 12449L, 12658L)), .Names = c("choc", "beer", "elec"), class = "data.frame", row.names = c(NA, -396L )) Regards Duncan -----Original Message----- From: David Winsemius [mailto:dwinsem...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, 19 December 2016 13:47 To: Duncan Mackay Cc: R Subject: Re: [R] data manipulation > On Dec 18, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Duncan Mackay <dulca...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > Hi David > > Thanks for the info. > As a test I am attaching it anyway Nothing allowed as an attachment by the server. -- David. > > Regards > > Duncan > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Winsemius [mailto:dwinsem...@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2016 05:36 > To: Duncan Mackay > Cc: R > Subject: Re: [R] data manipulation > > >> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Duncan Mackay <dulca...@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Coming late to the discussion - I deleted the original message >> I found that I have a cbe.dat that I downloaded some years ago from >> cowpertwaite's site . >> >> And have attached it > > Experience has shown that when you attach a file that you hope to be > distributed to the list it needs to have a .txt extension. Leaving it with a > .csv, .tsv, or .dat extension will cause it to be dropped by the server, > even if the contents of the file are ASCII text. > > The URL I offered earlier should have made the file available: > https://web.archive.org/web/20130501161812/http://staff.elena.aut.ac.nz/Paul > -Cowpertwait/ts/cbe.dat > > ... but if there is interest in having it in the Rhelp Archive, I can attach > it. > > > > -- > David. >> >> If it does not get through will do a dput as the file is only 7K >> >> Regards >> >> Duncan >> Duncan Mackay >> Department of Agronomy and Soil Science >> University of New England >> Armidale NSW 2351 >> Email: home: mac...@northnet.com.au >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Rui > Barradas >> Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2016 01:19 >> To: Farshad Fathian; r-help >> Subject: Re: [R] data manipulation >> >> Hello, >> >> Please cc your mails to the list. >> As for your data, your url is wrong, you need to contact Massey or maybe >> the source of your information and get a valid internet address. >> Without one there's not much we can do. >> >> Rui Barradas >> >> Em 14-12-2016 12:16, Farshad Fathian escreveu: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thanks for your e-mail. I was reading "Introductory Time Series with R" >>> by PS. Cowperwait. I am going to run the R codes in this book, but I >>> don't access to the input data from >>> ("http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat >>> <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>") website. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Rui Barradas <ruipbarra...@sapo.pt >>> <mailto:ruipbarra...@sapo.pt>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> What do you mean by "gives me something"? >>> >>> xx <- read.csv("http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat >>> <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>") >>> Error in file(file, "rt") : cannot open the connection >>> In addition: Warning message: >>> In file(file, "rt") : >>> cannot open URL 'http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat >>> <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>': HTTP status was '404 >>> Not Found' >>> >>> Rui Barradas >>> >>> >>> Em 14-12-2016 11:56, John Kane via R-help escreveu: >>> >>> xx <- read.csv("http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat >>> <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>") >>> gives me something. Since we have no idea of what you are doing >>> I don't know if the data has downloaded correctly >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:38 PM, Farshad Fathian >>> <farshad.fath...@gmail.com <mailto:farshad.fath...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I couldn't access to data file about PSCoperwait by >>> http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat >>> <http://massey.ac.nz/~pscoperwait/ts/cbe.dat>. >>> >>> >>> >>> Looking forward to hearing from you, >>> >>> >>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-help@r-project.org <mailto:R-help@r-project.org> mailing list >>> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>> <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help> >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide >>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>> <http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html> >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> >>> >>> >>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-help@r-project.org <mailto:R-help@r-project.org> mailing list >>> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>> <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help> >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide >>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>> <http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html> >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > David Winsemius > Alameda, CA, USA > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. David Winsemius Alameda, CA, USA ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.