Dear Prof. John Fox,
thanks a lot for your answer. Do you mean that my data set should have 19 rows
(one for each of the 19 subjects)
and 144 columns (that is 72 trials * 2 dependent variables)? So should the
dataframe look like this?
Subject Stimulus_1.Centroid.repetition1 Stimulus_1.Centroid.repetition2
Stimulus_1.Peak.repetition1 Stimulus_1.Peak.repetition2
Subject1 1000 2000
10 20
Subject2 500
600 5 6
......
SubjectN
However, differently from the example reported in the document you kindly
provided, my experiment
has two dependent variables.
My guess is that the analysis should be the following (considering 12 types of
stimuli and 6 repetitions
for each of them, and 2 dependent variables)
stimulus_type <- factor(rep(c("Stimulus_1", "Stimulus_2", "Stimulus_3",
"Stimulus_4", "Stimulus_5", "Stimulus_6",
"Stimulus_7", "Stimulus_8", "Stimulus_9", "Stimulus_10", "Stimulus_11",
"Stimulus_12"), c(6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6)),
levels=c("Stimulus_1", "Stimulus_2", "Stimulus_3", "Stimulus_4", "Stimulus_5",
"Stimulus_6",
"Stimulus_7", "Stimulus_8", "Stimulus_9", "Stimulus_10", "Stimulus_11",
"Stimulus_12"))
repetitions <- ordered(rep(1:6, 12))
idata <- data.frame(stimulus_type, repetitions)
Notably, now idata has 72 rows (should it have 144 rows instead?). Then I
continue with:
mod.ok <- lm(cbind(Stimulus_1.Centroid.repetition1, ....., Stimulus_12.Peak.
repetition2) ~ Subject, data=scrd)
av.ok <- Anova(mod.ok, idata=idata, idesign=~stimulus_type*repetitions)
Am I correct?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Angelo
>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: j...@mcmaster.ca
>Data: 25-nov-2015 17.23
>A: "angelo.arc...@virgilio.it"<angelo.arc...@virgilio.it>
>Cc: "r-help@r-project.org"<r-help@r-project.org>
>Ogg: RE: Syntax error in using Anova (car package)
>
>Dear Angelo,
>
>I'm afraid that this is badly confused. To use Anova() for repeated measures,
the data must be in "wide" format, with one row per subject. To see how this
works, check out the OBrienKaiser example in ?Anova and ?OBrienKaiser, or for
more detail, the R Journal paper at <{http://journal.r-project.org/archive/2013-
1/RJournal_2013-1_fox-friendly-weisberg.pdf>.
>
>I hope this helps,
> John
>
>-----------------------------------------------
>John Fox, Professor
>McMaster University
>Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>http://socserv.socsci.mcmaster.ca/jfox/
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: angelo.arc...@virgilio.it [mailto:angelo.arc...@virgilio.it]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:30 AM
>> To: r-help@r-project.org
>> Cc: Fox, John
>> Subject: Syntax error in using Anova (car package)
>>
>> Dear list members,
>> I am getting an error while performing a repeated measures MANOVA using
>> the Anova function
>> of the "car" package. I want to apply it on the results of an experiment
>> involving 19 participants,
>> who were subjected to 36 stimuli, each stimulus was repeated twice for a
>> total of 72 trials
>> per subject. Participants had to adjust two parameters of sounds,
>> Centroid and Sound_Level_Peak,
>> for each stimulus. This is the head of my dataset (dependent variables:
>> Centroid and
>> Sound_Level_Peak; independent variables: Mat (6 levels) and Sh (2
>> levels)).
>>
>> > head(scrd)
>> Subject Mat Sh Centroid Sound_Level_Peak
>> 1 Subject1 C DS 1960.2 -20.963
>> 2 Subject1 C SN 5317.2 -42.741
>> 3 Subject1 G DS 11256.0 -16.480
>> 4 Subject1 G SN 9560.3 -19.682
>> 5 Subject1 M DS 4414.1 -33.723
>> 6 Subject1 M SN 4946.1 -23.648
>>
>>
>> Based on my understanding of the online material I found, this is the
>> procedure I used:
>>
>> idata <- data.frame(scrd$Subject)
>> mod.ok <- lm(cbind(Centroid,Sound_Level_Peak) ~ Mat*Sh,data=scrd)
>> av.ok <- Anova(mod.ok, idata=idata, idesign=~scrd$Subject)
>>
>>
>> I get the following error
>>
>> Error in check.imatrix(X.design) :
>> Terms in the intra-subject model matrix are not orthogonal.
>>
>>
>> Can anyone please tell me what is wrong in my formulas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Angelo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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