Dear Jeff,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Tostenrude [mailto:climberj...@gmail.com]
> Sent: October 2, 2015 11:46 PM
> To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] scatter3d
> 
> Thank you for the suggestion. Yes, it does seem to be a bit 
> counter-intuitive, but
> that is the output I am being asked to produce. I have only been using R for a
> few weeks, so there is probably a better way to do it.
> 
> Anyway, your suggestion did work, but only up to 337 data points. I am dealing
> with ~100,000 data points so this doesn't really work for me. Is there another
> method you would suggest? My goal is to plot multiple regression planes
> (without points) in an interactive 3d plot.

I don't think that you said in your initial posting that you have so many 
points.

The scatter3d() function in the car package uses functions in the rgl package 
to draw 3D scatterplots. As Uwe Ligges and Duncan Murdoch have pointed out, you 
can use the rgl package directly to make your graph. One approach would be to 
adapt the scatter3d() code, removing the part of the code that plots the 
points. 

As Duncan points out, scatter3d(), which was initially written a long time ago, 
uses both older rgl.*() functions and newer, and in a sense better-behaved, 
*3d() functions in the rgl package, which isn't recommended. Because 
scatter3d() works properly, I haven't changed that (maybe I should). If you 
write your own function or script, you can take Duncan's advice and use only 
the *3d() functions.

Best,
 John

> 
> Thank you,
> Jeff
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca
> <mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca> > wrote:
> 
> 
>       Dear Jeff,
> 
>       I'm tempted to say that a scatterplot without points is an oxymoron, but
> that wouldn't be very helpful.
> 
>       Actually, the scatter3d() function used by the Rcmdr is in the car
> package. The Rcmdr 3D scatterplot dialog doesn't provide for suppressing the
> points, but if you add radius=rep(0, n) to the command that's generated, where
> you'd replace n with the number of cases in the dataset, that would do the 
> trick
> by plotting spheres of 0 radius. For example, try
> 
>               scatter3d(prestige ~ income + education, data=Duncan,
> radius=rep(0, 45), residuals=FALSE)
> 
>       either in the Rcmdr or at the R command prompt.
> 
>       For more information see ?scatter3d or press the Help button in the
> Rcmdr 3D scatterplot dialog and follow the link to scatter3d.
> 
>       I hope this helps,
>        John
> 
>       -----------------------------
>       John Fox, Professor
>       McMaster University
>       Hamilton, Ontario
>       Canada L8S 4M4
>       Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox <http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org <mailto:r-help-
> boun...@r-project.org> ] On Behalf Of Jeff
>       > Tostenrude
>       > Sent: October 2, 2015 7:34 PM
>       > To: r-help@r-project.org <mailto:r-help@r-project.org>
>       > Subject: [R] scatter3d
>       >
>       > I am using scatter3d in R Commander to plot a group of regression
> surfaces.
>       > However, I only want to display the surfaces. How do I remove the
> points?
>       >
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