>>>>> Juli <julianeleusch...@web.de> >>>>> on Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:32:39 -0700 writes:
> Hi Jim, thank you for your help. :) > My point is, that there are outlier and I don´t really > know how to deal with that. > I need the dataframe for a regression and read often that > only a few outlier can change your results very much. In > addition, regression diacnostics didn´t indcate me the > best results. Yes, and I know its not the core of > statistics to work in a way you get results you would > like to have ;). > So what is your suggestion? Use robust regression, e.g. MASS::rlm() {part of every R installation}, or a somewhat better and more sophisticated version. lmrob() from package 'robustbase' {yes, shameless promotion}. Further: 1) Removing outliers is not at all the best way to deal with such problems (intuitively, because it is a *dis*continuous method). Rather they should be downweighted (continuously, as it happens with methods used in rlm() or lmrob() see above) 2) Removing outliers in *multivariate* setting, if you want to do it in spite of 1) by using univariate treatment {each column separately as you do here} is often completely insufficient. E.g. the bivariate outlier in xy <- cbind(x= c(2,1:9), y=c(8,1:9)); plot(xy) cannot be found by looking at 'x' and 'y' separately. 3) If, in spite of 1) and 2) you are considering univariate treatment, using mean() and sd() for detecting univariate outliers has been proven to be insufficient more than 50 years ago (*1), and if one looks closer into the literature (say "L_1") even considerably longer ago. Using median() and mad() instead, is one possibility (*2) of what you should do. Hampel's rule (*3) proposes declaring outliers for the observations outside the interval median(x) +/- 3.5*mad(x) *1 Tukey, J. W. (1960) A survey of sampling from contaminated distributions. In Contributions to Probability and Statistics, eds I. Olkin, S. Ghurye, W. Hoeffding, W. Madow and H. Mann, pp. 448–485. Stanford: Stanford University Press. *2 Another (less robust, but still infinitely better than mean/sd) approach uses median() and IQR() which is basically/approximately what boxplots do to identify outliers. *3 Frank R. Hampel (1985) The Breakdown Points of the Mean Combined With Some Rejection Rules, Technometrics, 27:2, 95-107 [ http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/00401706.1985.10488027 ] See also section "1.4b. How Well Are Objective and Subjective Metbods for the ReJection of Outliers Doing in the Context of Robust Estimation?", page 62 ff od of Frank R. Hampel, Elvezio M. Ronchetti, Peter J. Rousseeuw and Werner A. Stahel (1986) Robust Statistics: The Approach Based on Influence Functions. John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.