Dear John,
You mention, "the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R
Commander")".
Apologies for my dumbness, but the manual I did read - and found helpful -
before posting is clearly a different one. A 43 page pdf with no section
numbers nor any reference to the Workspace. (Package ‘Rcmdr’ August 19,
2015 Version 2.2-0 Date 2015-08-14 Title R Commander ....// snip
//... Author John Fox [aut, cre], Milan Bouchet-Valat [aut], ..... //
snip //").
Since the Help page you refer to doesn't seem to be here
https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help or here
http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/, I would be very grateful for an extra
direction and apologise for getting a bit lost amongst all the
possibilities.
Kind regards, Joyaa (feeling like a fish in a new ocean).
-----Original Message-----
From: Fox, John
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:07 AM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows
10
Dear Joyaa,
-----Original Message-----
From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM
To: Fox, John
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
Windows 10
Dear John,
Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save
the
workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being
part
way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the
right
thing to do. Clearly not!
It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr
manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See
Section 6.5.
I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R
Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing
work -- but it my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new
users of R, whether or not they're using the R Commander.
So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I
copied
and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few
comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving
R's
script, output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable
practice.
If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this.
You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a
programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular
programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script
tab has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts,
and it offers to save the script when you exit.
You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr
into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr
Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The
Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents. See Sections 6.1 and 6.2
of the manual.
Best,
John
Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa
-----Original Message-----
From: Fox, John
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
Windows
10
Dear Joyaa,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM
> To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> Windows 10
>
> Dear John, Dear List,
>
> Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and
> reinstalling
> again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the
package
> library?
You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as
administrator
and that you took all defaults. In that case, the installed packages
will
be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library
directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do
recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the
SDI
rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties.
>
> I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the
whole
> things
> as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two
install
> attempts
> were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge,
UK.
>
> Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival
plug-in
> it
> worked fine.
If you said that before, I missed it.
> I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed
> the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload the
> plugin from
> R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting
for
> "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly.
Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My
guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved
workspace
is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again.
If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus
(or
if closing R directly, don't save the workspace).
I hope this helps,
John
-----------------------------
John Fox, Professor
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
>
> My thanks to you and the list for your time. Joyaa (Gold Coast,
> Queensland,
> Australia)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fox, John
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM
> To: Joyaa Antares
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> Windows
> 10
>
> Dear Joyaa,
>
> I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my
> package
> library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
> packages.
> I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the
> default MDI for
> Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I
> used the 0-
> Cloud mirror, both for R
> 3.2.2 and for packages.
>
> I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works
> perfectly fine
> for me.
>
> You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else
you
> can
> add?
>
> Best,
> John
>
> -----------------------------
> John Fox, Professor
> McMaster University
> Hamilton, Ontario
> Canada L8S 4M4
> web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares
> [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM
> To: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
Windows
> 10
>
> Hello r-help,
>
> I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with
Windows
> 10.
>
> On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this
error
> message:
>
> Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
> [tcl] invalid command name "configure".
>
> The lead-up to this was:
>
> * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find.
> * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install
> * Opened the .exe file as Administrator
> * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator
> * Updated all packages
> * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
> * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console
> * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed
> * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu
> * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn't open
> properly
> (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn't close
> properly
> either. The error message as above showed in the console.
>
> I haven't posted to the list before and would be very grateful for
help.
> Thank you. Joyaa
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>
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