On 7/14/2013 3:05 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:
On 15/07/13 08:57, Spencer Graves wrote:

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You may know that "mixed effects" is another term for "repeated measurements".

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I must of course preface this comment with an "I am no expert" disclaimer, but I do not believe that this assertion is correct. It would be more correct, I believe, to say that repeated measurement models form a particular sub-class of mixed effects models.

Those who *are* experts may well correct me if I am wrong about this.


Thanks for the clarification, Rolf. You are absolutely correct. "Repeated measurements" refers to the sampling plan. "Mixed effects" describes a form of mathematical modeling. There are balanced repeated measures data sets where people do not have to worry about the subtleties of mixed-effects modeling. An experiment with multiple litters with several mice in at least some of the litters would call for mixed-effects modeling. This would include "repeated measures" on the litters but not the mice.


However, "I am no expert" on repeated measures / mixed-effects, either


       Spencer


    cheers,

        Rolf

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